No, it's really not. To be honest, I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone can make that point without a straight face, short of concern trolling.
I mean, it literally is? Just read what they wrote. The concern-trolling here is people talking about how they feel persecuted, not people talking about the actual issue. This is just like any other thread on the matter, where it turns into "But what about
my feelings?!" rather than actually examining the matter.
Yeah, no. In fact, it's saying that if there's even one thousand people who are willing to pay money for a Cthulhu game, then the entire hobby is unwelcoming, which is self-evidently an unreasonable stance to take. At no point did that other poster call for empathy; they said that anyone who liked something they hate necessarily make them feel unwelcome. That's not "asking you to imagine" anything; it's saying that people who like Lovecraft's content are bad people.
They literally call for empathy when they are talking about being at a table where someone is complaining about there being black hobbits in
Rings of Power. They are asking you to understand how that feels. I don't know how this can be put any more clearly.
"Get rid of"? What happened to, "nobody's saying you're a bad person for liking problematic content"? Funny how the goalposts shifted there, isn't it?
I'm referring to getting rid of bad tropes and such. That is so self-evident in reading what I wrote that I can only assume this was just made in bad-faith.
Um, what? The next paragraph was a rambling screed which somehow goes from "one thousand people liking a Cthulhu RPG means that I don't feel welcome" to "something something Rings of Power." At no point did it come anywhere close to a coherent point.
It
does, it's just not the point
you want.
@Hussar is talking about how unwelcoming things can feel in the RPG community, whether it be Lovecraft's name being used to advertise a popular kickstarter to people complaining about diversity in roles in fantasy media. It's making a broad point about the atmosphere of the hobby and how hard it can be to feel welcomed.
Given that you claim how
@Bedrockgames was concern trolling despite their making rational points in a calm manner, while defending a hysterical rant about how one thousand people liking Cthulhu poisons the entire hobby, I think you need to take a step back and analyze the perspective you're coming from.
Do you understand what
concern trolling is? It's not about "rational points", but rather arguing about something that is not actually the subject. Instead of discussing slavery in Dark Suns they are talking about shunning and persecution of RPGers who don't agree with the idea that slavery is problematic. It's a tactic to avoid talking about the subject, to try and move off to a tangent. It is a side issue that really isn't relevant to the discussion that is suddenly being made
into the discussion.
That's what concern trolling is, trying to find an issue and morph the subject at hand into it to avoid talking about what we are really talking about. So I don't know how
I could be concern trolling when all I want to talk about is Dark Sun and the actual topic at hand. What I find frustrating and disingenuous is the persecution complex that always comes up in these topics about people thinking they are going to be somehow booted out of the community.
I'm not calling you out, simply lets acknowledge that yes people absolutely get tarred, sometimes pre-emptively, for simply not agreeing on the degree to which we must denounce, renounce, and never indeed engage, with topics that some call "problematic".
I mean dude, can we include art like that comic you linked me to or does that make you and I sexist?
Sure? I'll do it myself.
You didn't think she was always dressed in the classic get-up, did you?
Both things are worth talking about, and both have truth to them.
No, not really? If you want to start a topic about how shunning and player persecution are a problem, please do. I'd love for you to post that with some examples. But as it stands, it's just a really bad topic.