D&D Movie/TV Dragonlancing TV show being worked on by WotC confirmed

[aco175]

I would like to be optimistic by this, if only by the fact that Joe is so passionate by the project and would keep is close to the original. I do not think I will be excited right now, since last time I did with Willow I was let down by that soup-sandwich.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Hey now, CW stuff is often of much higher quality.

Sure, WoT is more on the weak end of the CW spectrum.

But, yeah, I watched the whole thing. They were on the one hand smart enough to know they had to remix the story to fit the first book in just 8 hours, but on the other just kept hitting themselves in the face with rakes like a drunk Wyl E. Coyote.

Yeah. Ally’s gotta do is keep the characters true at their core, the story true at its core, and capture some of the spirit and style of the original, while telling basically the same story.

Instead they took it and make it a sexy smolder love triangle show with bleak themes and little hope or light. Mr Rigney would have hated it. And seeing posts from Sanderson about him and Harriet trying to push the show back in the right direction to no avail just…oof.

But I’ll be honest, they made my wife cry. They took a steaming dump on her favorite character in all of fantasy media, broke the core of his character in half, and it was cheap.

So, it’s not like I was ever going to give them a second chance.

I've watched the series a couple times and this doesn't happen.
So many of the Wheel of Time reviews are by the anti-woke crowd who insist that having people of color is what ruined the series -- and they'll lie about everything else in order to spread their hate.

Nah I just misremembered the details. She stabs a guy in the back and then wolves do the rest of the killin’.

The important part is that Perrin doesn’t go into a blind rage and kill two whitecloaks because they killed Hopper, and Egwene takes a direct hand in violence much earlier in her story, in a scene that could have easily done what they were trying to do with the whole wife killerBS.

 

[Parmandur]

After reading all this I may have to go back and watch the wheel of time series again...I thought it was enjoyable in its own way.

On the other hand while I did start reading the books eons ago. I gave up because story just never seemed to go anywhere. I think I stopped reading after approximately 3,000,000 pages or so. In other words somewhere around book 6.

Nah, Lord's of Chaos is only about a million amd a half, two at tops.

It really is worth it and pays off in the end. The audio book is worth a go.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Nah, it was one of the worse adaptations I’ve seen.

Yeah I still never went past the Trolloc attack in episode 1.

So your knowledge seems rather limited...

 

[doctorbadwolf]

So your knowledge seems rather limited...

Firstly, one needn’t watch entire seasons to judge a show. If a show requires watching a whole season in order to overcome the mistakes of the beginning, it’s a bad show.

Second, I’ve mostly just moved on, and I am blessed in that my mind doesn’t try to retain things I don’t care about. I’ve read both detailed and cursory summaries of the entire show thus far, to see if they fixed any mistakes or just added more, and even watched some scenes to see exactly how something was executed. I avoid anything written by angry neckbeards, if I can help it.

I mean, it’s an adaptation of my wife’s favorite book series, and one I also love. I wanted it to be good. But in the end there has been no miracle, they haven’t made up for what they did to Perrin, or for that matter Matt, Nynaeve, even Rand kinda just sucks, or to the spirit and themes of the story itself.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Firstly, one needn’t watch entire seasons to judge a show. If a show requires watching a whole season in order to overcome the mistakes of the beginning, it’s a bad show.

No. But you can't give any credible review about the show then. Don't judge a book by its cover...

Or judging 4e by just looking at the unified structure of classes... and looking at internet reviews.

You watched half an episode out of 10?

 

[TerraDave]

This "confirmation" we have gotten many times.

Love to see it happen.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

However, the story is basically unfilmable, listening again to the series on audio book now and that's pretty clear. Anything short of a really, really drawn out anime style cartoon juat won't work.

I don't disagree. They did a very good job of making it something close to understandable/filmable though, I thought. I was genuinely surprised anyone could get that sprawling mess that close. And yeah realistically I think there are quite a few fantasy series that, if you wanted to hew as close as possible to the source material, you would need an anime, basically. The trouble is, a high-quality, well-animated anime, with a non-generic art-style, like JJK, Chainsaw Man or Cyberpunk takes longer to produce than an equivalent live-action show, or at least very close to as long, and is far from cheap, too. The days of seasons dozens and dozens of episodes long, two-thirds of them filler, a la Naruto et al, are mostly gone.

(Interestingly this means I actually started watching a bit of anime again! Higher style levels and shorter seasons are a good thing!)

The audio book is worth a go.

They're well-read (haven't heard the Rosamund Pike version yet but I know she's an excellent reader) and interestingly I feel like you pick up different things listening to reading, but one should also note that total time required to listen to all the allllll of WoT is 19 DAYS and 5 hours.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

No. But you can't give any credible review about the show then. Don't judge a book by its cover...

Or judging 4e by just looking at the unified structure of classes... and looking at internet reviews.

You watched half an episode out of 10?

LOL I don’t know why you’re so bent about this, but yeah, I can give credible review. Because my review is about the characters and the tone, and how much it differs from what the author intended for the story, all of which can be determined from synopsis, “internet reviews”, and watching clips of pivotal scenes.

Also dude, they made Matt’s family into a crap show, and made Perrin, the guy who spend a good chunk of the series married and whose struggle with violence is not nearly as tragic and dramatic as is necessitated by the show’s stupid decisions, have a wife just so they could shock the audience with him killing her.

It’s a crappy CW show with a slightly better budget.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't disagree. They did a very good job of making it something close to understandable/filmable though, I thought. I was genuinely surprised anyone could get that sprawling mess that close. And yeah realistically I think there are quite a few fantasy series that, if you wanted to hew as close as possible to the source material, you would need an anime, basically. The trouble is, a high-quality, well-animated anime, with a non-generic art-style, like JJK, Chainsaw Man or Cyberpunk takes longer to produce than an equivalent live-action show, or at least very close to as long, and is far from cheap, too. The days of seasons dozens and dozens of episodes long, two-thirds of them filler, a la Naruto et al, are mostly gone.

(Interestingly this means I actually started watching a bit of anime again! Higher style levels and shorter seasons are a good thing!)

They're well-read (haven't heard the Rosamund Pike version yet but I know she's an excellent reader) and interestingly I feel like you pick up different things listening to reading, but one should also note that total time required to listen to all the allllll of WoT is 19 DAYS and 5 hours.

I spend all day at work listening to music or podcasts while I type away: 19 days of material is a feature, not a bug!