D&D (2024) Martial vs Caster: Removing the "Magical Dependencies" of high level.

[Micah Sweet]

Why one? Other classes are not so limited.

Then provide several possibilities, but do so in the text, and let them inform the story of the class. Subclasses can narrow it down too.

 

[Hussar]

Determination doesnt really allow humans to jump over 300 meter chasms.

Why not? In a magical world one in a million chances happen all the time. And we are talking about a … wait for it … MYTHIC individual. As in the stuff of myth.

Y’know? Like the kind of stories where they jump 300 meter chasms.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Determination doesnt really allow humans to jump over 300 meter chasms.

And learning physics doesn't allow you to summon lightning from your hands. And worshiping nature doesn't allow you to turn into a grizzly bear. And learning how to play the flute doesn't allow you to craft visible illusions in thin air.

Funny how fantasy works like that.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Because the ones soul is nonmagical but is able to produce magical effects, whence ki and psionics.

This is your opinion.

Also, references to "determination" in the sense of directly manifesting magical effects by means of willpower, is Psionic magic.

This is your opinion.

Ki is more body oriented, attuning the subtle forces and influences of the life of ones own body.

This is your opinion

 

[Yaarel]

And learning physics doesn't allow you to summon lightning from your hands. And worshiping nature doesn't allow you to turn into a grizzly bear. And learning how to play the flute doesn't allow you to craft visible illusions in thin air.

Funny how fantasy works like that.

Turning into a Grizzly Bear is an aspect of bodily magic of ki (compare Norse hamr). The ki is an aspect of soul.

The Bard is arguably doing Psionic magic, using music and or words to focus the intention of the mind. The mind is an aspect of a disembodied soul, namely the consciousness itself.

 

[Hussar]

The problem with "cloning" is, it is simply a genetic twin, a normal human individual enjoying human rights and personal freedoms.

Re a printout, the newborn adult would lack any memories, and would be infantile.

On the other hand, if a printout of a body lacked a brain, it might allow for a brain transplant from the DNA donor. This wouldnt solve the problem of aging by itself, since the brain itself and even the telomeres of the DNA suffer from the earlier aging. But, it could help many humans who suffer from devastating injuries.

No. Just no. You are wrong. As in not even a little right.

You cannot “clone an adult” as an adult.

Jurassic Park and others are very hard SF, but not because they are possible.

 

[Yaarel]

This is your opinion.



This is your opinion.



This is your opinion

Yes, but other forumers are offering zero opinion − and are intentionally obfuscating HOW the Fighter can accomplish magical feats.

 

[Yaarel]

No. Just no. You are wrong. As in not even a little right.

You cannot “clone an adult” as an adult.

Jurassic Park and others are very hard SF, but not because they are possible.

Scientists have already printed out a functioning heart. There is already proof of concept.

In principle, any organ or an entire body can be printed out.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Then provide several possibilities, but do so in the text, and let them inform the story of the class. Subclasses can narrow it down too.

Did that. Two days ago. If that was all it took, why are we still getting demands?

At the dawn of time, when the first people of each race breathed in the air of the world, they had Champions. For the world was a dangerous place, full of evils and monsters beyond the strength of the common peasant. To survive, these people needed warriors, fighters, brave souls who would stand against all that threatened them with the full might of their people's survival on their shoulders. And echoing into the future, these champions still persist. They take up sword and shield, axe and hammer, bow and arrow, but always they stride forth to do battle.

Scholars and Sages debate what sets these Warriors apart from the common man. Some claim it is their intense will and determination, which warps the natural fields of magic to empower them beyond mortal limits. Others claim it is a descended soul from the first champions of each race, burning like brilliant sparks and pushing the flesh beyond its limits. Kingdoms and Empires enact special training regimes which seem to occassionally awaken such warriors to their potential, and claim it is these special techniques alone which create greatness. The Bards, speakers of the First Words, claim it is purely that these men and women become living legends, empowered by the faith and fervor of the people who spread their name, and using the weight of the words to move the world around them.

But the Fighter? They do not care why they can do what they do. Why they can does not matter, instead what matters is their goal and their determination to succeed no matter what

Remember, this? From two days ago?

 

[Chaosmancer]

Yes, but other forumers are offering zero opinion − and are intentionally obfuscating HOW the Fighter can accomplish magical feats.

So when we offer an answer, your opinion can override that answer, because to you that answer is nonmagical. So... what are we supposed to do here? Just go through ever possible answer until we find the one Yaarel likes, then go through and find the one Micah Sweet likes, which Yaarel won't like, so we'll go through them all again...

We've given the answer. Multiple times. We get told it isn't good enough. That that answer won't work, because that poster won't accept that as a reason for supernatural feats. So we just keep going in circles.