D&D General DMs Guild and DriveThruRPG ban AI written works, requires labels for AI generated art

[Reynard]

True. AI can make better art than I can. Can it write better than me? Dunno. I'm OK, but I'm no Shakespeare. Its writing will get as good as its art, and that will probably be better than the average person, but not as good as a genius. The question is where that leaves us non-geniuses in the creative process?

There will be a market for real people-made stuff who have built a brand and reputation above that of the AI stuff, but the majority of creators will struggle. I suspect the real people will find niches in the off-mainstream stuff, as the mainstream stuff is where the AIs will dominate. People will make ideas, AI will follow it, and people will have to stay ahead of them with increasingly niche concepts.

Consumers, in general, have frustratingly low standards. that is the real problem with AI generated entertainment: people won't actually care as long as it fills a few hours of their otherwise painful lives. Formulaic entertainment in particular, like sitcoms and crappy D&D adventures, will be the first conquered.

And let's not underestimate the greed of artists themselves, some of whom will absolutely license their work to generative AI. James Earl Jones already did so.

Those of you planting your flag on the hill of "generative AI is theft and therefore always bad" are failing to see that laws and circumstances will change and this stuff is going to become NORMAL in very, very short order. And, yes, if you are a normal (ie not famous) commercial artist of any sort (visual, musical, writing, whatever) you are pretty much screwed.

 

[Charlaquin]

The two parts were connected. This will generate a lot of wealth, and it will put people out of work. Ergo, we should use the wealth to help those people.

Sure, but my point is that they don’t have to be. We could fix the situation wherein labor is a basic necessity to live for the majority of people. Then there wouldn’t be a need to help people who were put out of work by labor-saving technology, and we could use the wealth that technology generated to improve the basic standard of living, instead of having to use it to help people who can’t maintain a living due to having been put out of work.

 

[Charlaquin]

Consumers, in general, have frustratingly low standards. that is the real problem with AI generated entertainment: people won't actually care as long as it fills a few hours of their otherwise painful lives. Formulaic entertainment in particular, like sitcoms and crappy D&D adventures, will be the first conquered.

And let's not underestimate the greed of artists themselves, some of whom will absolutely license their work to generative AI. James Earl Jones already did so.

Those of you planting your flag on the hill of "generative AI is theft and therefore always bad" are failing to see that laws and circumstances will change and this stuff is going to become NORMAL in very, very short order. And, yes, if you are a normal (ie not famous) commercial artist of any sort (visual, musical, writing, whatever) you are pretty much screwed.

Hey, here’s a cool idea: why don’t we, you know, DO SOMETHING about that instead of just accepting it as inevitable.

 

[Reynard]

Hey, here’s a cool idea: why don’t we, you know, DO SOMETHING about that instead of just accepting it as inevitable.

What do you suggest?

 

[Charlaquin]

What do you suggest?

Regulation. Also UBI would be a good idea.

EDIT: Or did you mean what do I suggest we as individuals do? Organize, lobby, vote, protest. Generally make this a significant issue that the unmotivated moderate can’t easily ignore.

 

[Reynard]

Regulation. Also UBI would be a good idea.

EDIT: Or did you mean what do I suggest we as individuals do? Organize, lobby, vote, protest. Generally make this a significant issue that the unmotivated moderate can’t easily ignore.

I agree with all of that.

EDIT: Just because I see AI as another tool that will move in and disrupt human effort and labor doesn't mean I don't think it isn't worth trying to force that thing to be for the benefit of mankind. I feel that way about all "inevitable" technology.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Regulation. Also UBI would be a good idea.

EDIT: Or did you mean what do I suggest we as individuals do? Organize, lobby, vote, protest. Generally make this a significant issue that the unmotivated moderate can’t easily ignore.

Yeah, universal basic income will become necessary once enough industries are automated.

 

[Reynard]

Yeah, universal basic income will become necessary once enough industries are automated.

It's long past necessary.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah, universal basic income will become necessary once enough industries are automated.

Lol. I'm thinking bread and circuses.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

It's long past necessary.

I agree. I just meant that eventually it might become so necessary that the majority of people will starve to death without it, due to automation replacing their jobs.