D&D (2024) Fighter (Playtest 7)

[Yaarel]

I really like that. Is there a better name than Skirmisher? (Duelist feels better but not good...).

I between the Knight class and the Skirmisher class, I would probably use the name "Fighter" for the Skirmisher.

 

[Minigiant]

Disagree - people like Madmartigan are basically the brawler archetype. Constantly punching and kicking as well as their normal attacks, smashing pots on people, that sort of thing. The only problem, design-wise, is that someone at WotC was too precious to let them use the bonus action unarmed attack to make an unarmed attack, which is just such a ludicrous, laughable WotC-ism.

It's just as major an archetype has half the other subclasses. If you want it to go on "Insufficiently known", we have to delete genuinely most subclasses on the same basis.

That's the Archetype that is iconic.

Sword Sword Pommel/Kick/Shoulder= Iconic

Ladder Ladder Chair = Not Iconic

 

[Ruin Explorer]

That's the Archetype that is iconic.

Sword Sword Pommel/Kick/Shoulder= Iconic

Ladder Ladder Chair = Not Iconic

Uh-huh. But you deciding "Brawler" means "mean drunk" is just harmful nonsense that you've made up. It's like me deciding all Evokers are mean-spirited men who like setting people on fire.

The Brawler archetype is perfectly common. It's only when you, bizarrely, try to alter it into "mean drunk" (I have no idea why you would think this, it's almost you've mistranslated or misunderstood the word Brawler), that there is a problem.

 

[Minigiant]

Uh-huh. But you deciding "Brawler" means "mean drunk" is just harmful nonsense that you've made up. It's like me deciding all Evokers are mean-spirited men who like setting people on fire.

The Brawler archetype is perfectly common. It's only when you, bizarrely, try to alter it into "mean drunk" (I have no idea why you would think this, it's almost you've mistranslated or misunderstood the word Brawler), that there is a problem.

Confusing me for another poster. Never said drunk.

To me the brawler fighter kicks after swinging his sword.

To WOTC, the brawler fighter swings a chair instead of a swords.

 

[mamba]

Sometimes Adventure finds you.

that is exactly my point, an adventurer sets out to find adventure

You seem awfully caught up in the word "brawl" here, when it just means "unarmed and improv combat." Which is something I have seen people ask for, constantly, for years on various forums. Guess WotC got the memo?

No, the brawl is not the thing, it's the improvised weapon thing I guess. If I set out to slay a dragon, I will get equipment and plan, and not just walk up to its cave, hoping to find a beer bench nearby that I can use It's the unpreparedness of it

 

[Parmandur]

that is exactly my point, an adventurer sets out to find adventure


No, the brawl is not the thing, it's the improvised weapon thing I guess. If I set out to slay a dragon, I will get equipment and plan, and not just walk up to its cave, hoping to find a beer bench nearby that I can use It's the unpreparedness of it

Improvised doesn't mean unprepared: heck, getting a signature Improvised weapon can be a whole Thing.

 

[Charlaquin]

Ladder Ladder Chair = Not Iconic

Pro wrestling fans would beg to differ.

 

[mamba]

Improvised doesn't mean unprepared: heck, getting a signature Improvised weapon can be a whole Thing.

If I were prepared, I would not need to improvise. That is certainly true for the weapon I show up to a fight with.

 

[Minigiant]

Pro wrestling fans would beg to differ.

As a pro wrestling fan myself, wrestlers don't swap weapons during combos.

Chair Chair DONT DO IT! DONT DO IT! Chair BAH GAWD!

 

[Charlaquin]

As a pro wrestling fan myself, wrestlers don't swap weapons during combos.

Chair Chair DONT DO IT! DONT DO IT! Chair BAH GAWD!

Touché!