D&D (2024) Half Race Appreciation Society: Half Elf most popular race choice in BG3

[Scribe]

You are acting as if the description that applies to player characters applies to 100% of the species. That ignores the verbiage used for 5e

No I'm not, I understand that it applies to PCs.

I also understand that it lacks all nuance.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

okay, I don't follow Wizards and D&D much, but I gather that half races (or ancestries or whatever they are calling it now) is going away?

ummm, why?

I'm half asian, half white. I don't see any issue.

Actually, you're human. I think a more apt version would be if you were a merman - half human, half fish. YMMV

 

[CreamCloud0]

Heh.

I would say something like ...

The Human species is unusual within the Material Plane, evolving naturally from Beasts while gaining the capacity of speech and sapience. They value learning and forming social communities where they transmit knowledge to future generations. Humans are curious and ambitious − and highly aggressive, the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures. Yet they also tend to balance compassion and justice, community obligations and individual freedoms.

i agree with most of this description but i think i would replace the bolded section with:

"these traits can drive them to achieve incredible feats, but can also cause them to perform dangerous or terrible things of equal magnitude when they let these traits go unchecked"

 

[Frozen_Heart]

I've seen the word 'nuance' typed so much now that the word has started to look weird.

 

[CreamCloud0]

regarding the matter of the tiefling's 'nuance',

the description of the tiefling describes them as being as equally affable as most any other given player species: they're pleasant inoffensive folk who get along with most everybody else (how anyone else might get along with them is another matter but that indicates nothing about tieflings themselves), all in all they're a decent lot,

sure there is nothing indicating that any given tiefling couldn't be evil but it's all presented with the undertones that that would generally be the exception rather than the norm, as much as it's true that there'll be a few bad apples in any batch so this indicates nothing about tieflings specifically when the same is true for elves, gnomes, dragonborn, humans and the rest of the species.

there's nothing that says anything like 'as long as tieflings have been persecuted for their lineage there have been those who have retaliated above and beyond reasonable action' or 'there have been those tieflings who take their feindish ancestry as inspiration and take entertainment inflicting suffering on others'

 

[Vaalingrade]

I've seen the word 'nuance' typed so much now that the word has started to look weird.

It has become quite the nuisance.

 

[Epic Meepo]

Humans are curious and ambitious − and highly aggressive, the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures.

Wait, what? Per your prior posts in this thread, you believe the mere existence of three lineages within the elf species is inherently racist, but you have no problem calling out one and only one playable species as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures" in your proposed species write-up? If WotC characterized orcs as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures," would you be okay with that? What if WotC characterized drow elves as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures," but made no such statement about high elves?

 

[Scribe]

Wait, what? Per your prior posts in this thread, you believe the mere existence of three lineages within the elf species is inherently racist, but you have no problem calling out one and only one playable species as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures" in your proposed species write-up? If WotC characterized orcs as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures," would you be okay with that? What if WotC characterized drow elves as "the most violent and dangerous of all natural creatures," but made no such statement about high elves?

I can see the way out of this logical problem, but..I'll leave it.

 

[JEB]

You are acting as if the description that applies to player characters applies to 100% of the species. That ignores the verbiage used for 5e

Is there any 5E tiefling lore other than what's provided for player characters?

 

[bedir than]

Is there any 5E tiefling lore other than what's provided for player characters?

There's several NPCs outlined, and they're quite evil, which people in this thread have insisted is impossible