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[Thomas Shey]

Seriously? I would say that it's more unpopular to hate on the MCU than vice versa.

You wouldn't know to see some of the narrative I do on it, where its been clearly failing for months or years now.

 

[Jd Smith1]

lol... the TT in VTT and the TT in TTRPG are the same TT.

And, really, are there any VTT-only TTRPGs ....yet?

Not quite, yet. But a lot of games still in Kickstarter have support structures already built for Roll20 and Foundry.

There are points that D&D is moving very strongly towards full online. They already strongly support online play.

 

[Maxperson]

Look at the cover. It calls itself a miniatures wargame.

Are you talking about Chainmail or D&D? Because you're saying D&D and Chainmail was the wargame. It seems like you are conflating the two.

 

[Tony Vargas]

Are you talking about Chainmail or D&D? Because you're saying D&D and Chainmail was the wargame. It seems like you are conflating the two.

TBF, what became D&D started as a variation on Chainmail, and D&D initially used Chainmail for combats.

 

[Maxperson]

TBF, what became D&D started as a variation on Chainmail, and D&D initially used Chainmail for combats.
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If you read those rules, it's a roleplaying game. They just mislabeled it. Probably because it was the first or among the first and they didn't know what to call it.

Chainmail was an actual miniatures wargame.

 

[Reynard]

lol... the TT in VTT and the TT in TTRPG are the same TT.

And, really, are there any VTT-only TTRPGs ....yet?

Foundry is working on an RPG of their own.

 

[Tony Vargas]

If you read those rules, it's a roleplaying game. They just mislabeled it. Probably because it was the first or among the first and they didn't know what to call it.

Chainmail was an actual miniatures wargame.

I mean, 'mislabeled' from the PoV of a few years later when people started saying Roleplaying Game.

That's not mislabeled, that's later re-interpreted.

 

[Cadence]

I mean, 'mislabeled' from the PoV of a few years later when people started saying Roleplaying Game.

That's not mislabeled, that's later re-interpreted.

Asking again (apologies if I missed an earlier reply).

Is this like saying the stuff in New Orleans in the 1890s and first decade of the 1900s wasn't Jazz because it wouldn't be called that for another 15 years or so? Or like the first games played with the rules of pickleball weren't pickleball yet because it wasn't called that at the time?

Or is this different than those somehow?

 

[Tony Vargas]

Asking again (apologies if I missed an earlier reply).

Is this like saying the stuff in New Orleans in the 1890s and first decade of the 1900s wasn't Jazz because it wouldn't be called that for another 15 years or so? Or like the first games played with the rules of pickleball weren't pickleball yet because it wasn't called that at the time?

Or is this different than those somehow?

Nah, just, it wasn't called jazz, it was whatever it was marketed as or discussed as being at the time. It's not an extraordinary claim or anything.

If you asked Gygax, in '73, what he was working on, he'd have said a wargame. He wasn't wrong, he wasn't lying.

 

[Cadence]

Nah, just, it wasn't called jazz, it was whatever it was marketed as or discussed as being at the time. It's not an extraordinary claim or anything.

So, are you saying
(A) It wasn't Jazz until the name arrived from California or Chicago
Or
(B) It was Jazz but just not known by that name

If you asked Gygax, in '73, what he was working on, he'd have said a wargame. He wasn't wrong, he wasn't lying.