D&D (2024) Playtest 8 Spell Discussion

[fluffybunbunkittens]

The new Starry Wisp cantrip is excellent.

I don't like it also being given to Bards just because 'they had no ranged damage before'. I thought that's why they buffed Vicious Mockery to d6, and it's a lot more fitting for a Bard than... a beam of moonlight.

 

[mellored]

WHERE ARE THE NEW RANGER SPELLS WOTC?!

Conjure Animals, Conjure Woodland Beings, and Cure Wounds all have Ranger listed.

 

[Minigiant]

I was about to say that Conjure Animals now gives them an AoE option, but then I remembered that the new Conjure Barrage is a selectable-target Fireball anyway...

the damage is terrible at the level rangers get it.

 

[Minigiant]

Conjure Animals, Conjure Woodland Beings, and Cure Wounds all have Ranger listed.

Those are old spells.
2 made worse.
1 made better.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

the damage is terrible at the level rangers get it.

Yes, but that applies to all their spells. I really miss different classes having access to the same spells at different levels - Ranger could really use Steel Wind Strike, but no, Wizards need that at lv9.

 

[mellored]

Those are old spells.
2 made worse.
1 made better.

The Conjure spells are new spells in every way but name.

Summon Beast/Fey/Elemental are still Ranger spell, and will be printed in the PHB. Which are the actual replacements for them.

 

[Remathilis]

WHERE ARE THE NEW RANGER SPELLS WOTC?!

Rangers lose Primal list, get nothing in return.
Gonna suck again.

Feels bad man. pepe

Nobody can get more spells because wizard players will have a sad.

That said, they will get the appropriate Tasha summon spells.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Nobody can get more spells because wizard players will have a sad.

Speaking on behalf of wizards, everyone should have the ability to gain more spells (and wizards should start off with a more stripped down list and have to expand their lists with subclasses).

We will content ourselves with still having the best SAT scores.

 

[Minigiant]

The Conjure spells are new spells in every way but name.

Summon Beast/Fey/Elemental are still Ranger spell, and will be printed in the PHB. Which are the actual replacements for them.

Sure. But those are really now druid spells because rangers get them tool late. The utility for rangers was removed.

Where the spell that gets rangers echolocation or exploding arrows or instant traps or heighten senses or dogs or bees or dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark they shoot bees at you

 

[Ashrym]

The change to conjure spells seems odd to me. I would have to play with them an see how it feels in play. The initial impression is losing summoning spells.

I'm on board with the change to those healing spells. They're currently a poor use of a spell slot and I tend to rarely use them. The improvement look like it will help.