D&D (2024) The 2024 Core D&D Rulebooks Are Coming In May

21st May 2024 is the official release date!

Update--WotC has taken down the promo image and replaced it with one without a release date. See more here.

 

[Maxperson]

".5" is just as much a gimmick as OneD&D, but neither is being used at any rate.

D&D'24

D&D'24 is no different than One D&D. It's all a gimmick to try and avoid a .5, which is NOT a gimmick. It's an accurate description of a drastic change that isn't enough to warrant a new edition number.

 

[Maxperson]

If you were around in the 3.5 days & recall the first time you came across a 3.0 book that made you sau "huh?... wut?..." for being less compatible than even the more extreme 3pp d20 rpgs*. So far 2024 is notably less of a shift than 3.5 to some d20 RPG that was required to rebuild from scratch a lot of the stuff you are pointing at as notable changes in 2024
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* or vice versa if you were notably involved with 3.0 stuff first.

I was there for the 3e to 3.5 change and the only issue that wasn't really an issue was the change with monsters from DR: 20/+3 to DR:10/magic. The cut DR in half and got rid of the plusses, and that was the hardest of it.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

D&D'24 is no different than One D&D. It's all a gimmick to try and avoid a .5, which is NOT a gimmick. It's an accurate description of a drastic change that isn't enough to warrant a new edition number.

We're just never going to agree on this. I think 5.5 is the absolute worst thing that you could call it. No, I don't agree a single bit that .5 is not a gimmick and '24 IS. Nor that it's an accurate description.

I mean, I get it, you got it in your head from 3.5 that things ought to work that way. But it's not a universal truth. It's just a marketing decision from 20 years ago. A dumb one, IMO.

I agree with you that the game will be somewhat significantly changed. (Good!) But the main reason they are avoiding renumbering in any way is the ABSOUTELY NEVER BEFORE DONE marketing decision to keep the previous splat-books IN PRINT. To call it anything other than "2024"-verson of 5e would be to UNDERMINE THAT ATTEMPT. Which would be utterly stupid.

You can think of it as a gimmick if you like (all marketing is a gimmick in some way or another).

Keep in mind that EVERY EDITION has had a 2nd round of core books - and every time, they've called it SOMETHING NEW. Point-Five was used only ONCE. Foolishly.

I know we're never going to agree on this, but you have to at the very least understand that your opinion here is not any kind of objective fact.

 

[Parmandur]

D&D'24 is no different than One D&D. It's all a gimmick to try and avoid a .5, which is NOT a gimmick. It's an accurate description of a drastic change that isn't enough to warrant a new edition number.

No, .5 was just a gimmick to avoid calling the 2003 rules 4th Edition. Calling them '24 rules is not a gimmick, because they are rules being released in '24.

 

[Parmandur]

Point-Five was used only ONCE. Foolishly.

Yeah, and literally nobody else in the history of publishing has followed suit, neither.

 

[Maxperson]

No, .5 was just a gimmick to avoid calling the 2003 rules 4th Edition. Calling them '24 rules is not a gimmick, because they are rules being released in '24.

If the .5 was just a gimmick to avoid calling 3e 4e, then all the current names for 6e(5.5e, One D&D, D&D '24) are just gimmicks as well, because the current changes are even more dramatic than the 3e to 4e(3.5) changes. Adding a .5 is the least gimmicky, though. It keeps it with an edition number at least.

 

[Maxperson]

We're just never going to agree on this. I think 5.5 is the absolute worst thing that you could call it. No, I don't agree a single bit that .5 is not a gimmick and '24 IS. Nor that it's an accurate description.

I mean, I get it, you got it in your head from 3.5 that things ought to work that way. But it's not a universal truth. It's just a marketing decision from 20 years ago. A dumb one, IMO.

I agree with you that the game will be somewhat significantly changed. (Good!) But the main reason they are avoiding renumbering in any way is the ABSOUTELY NEVER BEFORE DONE marketing decision to keep the previous splat-books IN PRINT. To call it anything other than "2024"-verson of 5e would be to UNDERMINE THAT ATTEMPT. Which would be utterly stupid.

You can think of it as a gimmick if you like (all marketing is a gimmick in some way or another).

Keep in mind that EVERY EDITION has had a 2nd round of core books - and every time, they've called it SOMETHING NEW. Point-Five was used only ONCE. Foolishly.

I know we're never going to agree on this, but you have to at the very least understand that your opinion here is not any kind of objective fact.

Then let's not call it 5.5 and call it 6e like it really is. If you don't want a .5, then it's a full edition change that they are dodging.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Then let's not call it 5.5 and call it 6e like it really is. If you don't want a .5, then it's a full edition change that they are dodging.

6e is stupid too. It's like the 16th Edition or something. Or we can just go with whatever WotC wants to call it, because ALL the names have been made up by either WotC or TSR. It doesn't really matter, as long as we call it something. It's easiest to just suck it up and play along. As distasteful as that may be.

 

[Maxperson]

6e is stupid too. It's like the 16th Edition or something. Or we can just go with whatever WotC wants to call it, because ALL the names have been made up by either WotC or TSR. It doesn't really matter, as long as we call it something. It's easiest to just suck it up and play along. As distasteful as that may be.

It's not 5e, though. The changes are too drastic for it to remain what it was. Being mostly compatible doesn't leave it the same game.

 

[Yaarel]

It's not 5e, though. The changes are too drastic for it to remain what it was. Being mostly compatible doesn't leave it the same game.

Which changes seem dramatic to you?