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[Parmandur]

D&D 2024 will cause confusion

How, it is D&D and is coming out in 2024. It is inarguably factually correct, and clear as to the referent ( obody will see "D&D'24" and think you mean 4E Essentials or BECMI).

 

[Stalker0]

. If all the changes from recent and earlier playtests go in, including the spell changes, it'll be a bigger change than 3E to 3.5E

Compiled 3.5 Revisions

Here is a running, compiled list of changes to the D&D 3.0 rules for the revised edition (aka D&D 3.5). Sources include: Shadowstar's scoops, Dragon, Dungeon, WOTC web site, WOTC Chat, Ed Stark interview, Andy Collins boards, Andy Collins, Ed Stark, and David Noonan via WOTC boards, and 3.5...

www.enworld.org

Anyone who thinks the 5.5e change is right now anywhere close to the 3.5 list…feel free to take a gander at the change log for 3.5 i noted.

Now 5.5 MIGHT be as big once we get all the changes including the mm and dmg…but from just the playtests so far..:no it’s not close.

And beyond the amount of changes, 3.5 changed various fundamental mechanics, all the combat options, action types, OAs, jump mechanics, shields, damage reduction was overhauled, many skills, etc etc.

 

[DarkCrisis]

What are all the major changes to 5.5?

 

[Maxperson]

How, it is D&D and is coming out in 2024. It is inarguably factually correct, and clear as to the referent ( obody will see "D&D'24" and think you mean 4E Essentials or BECMI).

It will cause confusion because many people don't follow d&d news closely or even at all. You will have 5e users walk in looking for 5e stuff, see d&d 2024 and ignore it because it isn't 5e.

 

[Maxperson]

AD&D had 4 typical editions before WotC bought TSR, and WotC is working on releasing their 5th edition of PHB, DMG, & MM this coming year. That's 9 Editions, based on nor.al publishing usage.

I could see calling the new books 9th edition, but then OD&D and the Basic line make things even more complex.

This is why they are dropping the yerminolgoy.

That doesn't apply. How publishing uses the term does not equate to how d&d uses it. There are only 5 editions, regardless of how the publishing industry technically uses the term.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

That doesn't apply. How publishing uses the term does not equate to how d&d uses it. There are only 5 editions, regardless of how the publishing industry technically uses the term.

I find it strange that you are happy to accept that TSR chose to call 2e a "full" edition change, but have entirely invented for yourself the concept of a "half-edition" so you can line all the others up with 3.5 in your head to force this next revision to be 5.5, but whatever, I guess. If you want to call it Five-Point-Five THAT badly, you do you.

 

[FrogReaver]

So instead of all this name warring - (proxy edition warring maybe?). Is there any way whatever you call it actually out does 5e? I think it will do well but not as well as 5e. Seems like a whole lot has to go right for it to actually out do 5e.

 

[Micah Sweet]

It will cause confusion because many people don't follow d&d news closely or even at all. You will have 5e users walk in looking for 5e stuff, see d&d 2024 and ignore it because it isn't 5e.

I really think people are potentially underestimating just how much WotC 5e's huge influx if customers might affect sales of the new books in a negative way. All those shiny new players were brought in by (and in many cases grew up on) the 2014 books as they more-or-less currently exist. Why assume all those people, who have never experienced the rancor of an edition change before, will just decide to throw their old books away and spend another $175-200 bucks on a new set? Why wouldn't they just keep playing with the core books they have, and buy new, non-replacement products as they strike their fancy, especially with WotC so adamant on the backwards compatible issue? What makes it worth the expense and trouble for all those people, with their lack of obsession with gaming new minutia? Heck, who's to say they even know much about new books coming out at all?

 

[Micah Sweet]

So instead of all this name warring - (proxy edition warring maybe?). Is there any way whatever you call it actually out does 5e? I think it will do well but not as well as 5e. Seems like a whole lot has to go right for it to actually out do 5e.

Extremely unlikely, for the reasons I explained in my previous post.

 

[TwoSix]

I really think people are potentially underestimating just how much WotC 5e's huge influx if customers might affect sales of the new books in a negative way. All those shiny new players were brought in by (and in many cases grew up on) the 2014 books as they more-or-less currently exist. Why assume all those people, who have never experienced the rancor of an edition change before, will just decide to throw their old books away and spend another $175-200 bucks on a new set? Why wouldn't they just keep playing with the core books they have, and buy new, non-replacement products as they strike their fancy, especially with WotC so adamant on the backwards compatible issue? What makes it worth the expense and trouble for all those people, with their lack of obsession with gaming new minutia? Heck, who's to say they even know much about new books coming out at all?

Yep. The core problem with releasing a popular edition that lots of people like is that "you like what you have, so let's change it into something new!" AND "you like what you have, so let's just slightly change it!" aren't great selling points.

It's why my consistent argument against the new books is that the proper approach should have been a standalone expansion, so the argument for buying it is "you like what you have, so here's MORE of it!"