I just mean that there seems to be a difference in the way people (here at least) respond to "That cover sucks" versus "That adventure sucks." Maybe people (broadly) tend to care less about art and more about writing/design, and therefore are more willing to push back or argue in the latter case?I find the same social dynamics over the actual content and even specific content. You can't talk about anything D&D with a certain number of people taking drive-by shots.
So folks, which do you like better the beholder on the 2014 MM or the beholder on this one? I'm surprised how many people don't like the 2014 MM cover. I loved it. I really like the beholder on this cover. But the 2014 cover is my favorite MM cover of any edition and my second favorite beholder art. The best beholder art remains:
I'm only half joking. What I DO like about this image is that it captures the outer-realms weirdness and sense of insanity that I think of when I think of a beholder. Beholders, for me, are much more than another toothsome boss fight. They are lunatic dreams made manifest. Not just another nightmare.
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I really am happy with the new art! I did not like the alternate cover for the MM. most people preferred it!
Was maybe referring to the DMG?When was that released?
They got proposed to and got married.So folks, which do you like better the beholder on the 2014 MM or the beholder on this one? I'm surprised how many people don't like the 2014 MM cover. I loved it. I really like the beholder on this cover. But the 2014 cover is my favorite MM cover of any edition and my second favorite beholder art. The best beholder art remains:
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I'm only half joking. What I DO like about this image is that it captures the outer-realms weirdness and sense of insanity that I think of when I think of a beholder. Beholders, for me, are much more than another toothsome boss fight. They are lunatic dreams made manifest. Not just another nightmare.
...I do, however, often wonder whatever happened to the sexy beholders? What happened to those dreams?
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Maybe the mage is casting dominate monster on itNone of the beholder's eyes are pointed at the PC's. It could have made a temporary alliance with them, because it wants all these inferior monsters out of its lair. Maybe they've appealed to its vanity and it thinks they will become its henchmen.
Or, maybe the beholder has only just silently floated up behind them while they were focused on the other monsters, and they haven't noticed it yet. Beholders can be very stealthy when they want to be.
I like this cover.
I mean, personally I have been making a conscious effort lately to avoid the “you should say ‘I don’t like it’ instead of ‘it’s bad’” line of argumentation. I’ve seen that exact line used to shut down legitimate critique so often, I think we’d be better off just assuming that every instance of “X art is horrible” is followed with an unspoken “in my personal opinion,” and to investigate what factors are informing that opinion, rather than policing people’s word choice.I find it interesting how uncontroversial it seems to be to call the art "horrible" "bad" and worse, relative to how quickly folks come to designers and writers defense when folks criticise the actual content of the books/adventures.
I just wonder a bit at all the people for whom the cover art is apparently enough to sell or unsell them on the book. Seriously, you don't see the cover while it's on the shelf, you don't see it while you're reading the book, and it does nothing to change the contents of the game rules for better or worse. It is literally the least important part of the book, in my view.I mean, personally I have been making a conscious effort lately to avoid the “you should say ‘I don’t like it’ instead of ‘it’s bad’” line of argumentation. I’ve seen that exact line used to shut down legitimate critique so often, I think we’d be better off just assuming that every instance of “X art is horrible” is followed with an unspoken “in my personal opinion,” and to investigate what factors are informing that opinion, rather than policing people’s word choice.