D&D (2024) GREYHAWKCONFIRMED! Reflections on Greyhawk in the DMG

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I think the changes are good. And yet ...

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Glorioles got a deserved renaming because sometimes you need to head off the distraction of our inner 15-year-old.

Shibboleth got renamed to Froghome, I’m ¯\(ツ)/¯ about that one but fine.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Glorioles got a deserved renaming because sometimes you need to head off the distraction of our inner 15-year-old.

.....oh, yep.

I wonder if anyone has, or wants to, put together a list of all the name changes?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Okay, another difference. I really wish I could do this systematically.

This map has specific markers for some canonical locations.

White Plume Mountain.
Ghost Tower of Inverness.
Tomb of Horrors.
Temple of Elemental Evil.

eta- just saw Saltmarsh as well.


Which is interesting.

ETA2-
Maure Castle.
Castle Greyhawk.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I had a fairly comprehensive list in a different thread. Mostly from memory…

Paynims to … I can’t remember
Tiger Nomads to Chakyik
Wolf Nomads to Wegwuir
Blackmoor to Arn
Rovers of the Barrens to The Huntinglands
Frost/Ice/Snow Barbarians to their own kingdom names.
North Province to Aerdiaak
Glorioles to Hestmark Peaks
Scarlet Brotherhood to Shar
Shibboleth to Froghome

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

A lot of small coastal islands have been added, like the many coastal islands in the 2e Scarlet Brotherhood accessory, especially along the Spine Ridge.

I noticed that LGG added a fourth big island for the Sea Princes, that Darlene only had 3. But Schley returns to pre-LGG three big islands.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I had a fairly comprehensive list in a different thread. Mostly from memory…

Paynims to … I can’t remember
Tiger Nomads to Chakyik
Wolf Nomads to Wegwuir
Blackmoor to Arn
Rovers of the Barrens to The Huntinglands
Frost/Ice/Snow Barbarians to their own kingdom names.
North Province to Aerdiaak
Glorioles to Hestmark Peaks
Scarlet Brotherhood to Shar
Shibboleth to Froghome

Well, let's make the complete list! And thank you.

(My changes in bold, tell me if anything is wrong)

Paynims to Plains of the Ulakandar
Tiger Nomads to Chakyik
Wolf Nomads to Wegwuir
Blackmoor to Arn
Rovers of the Barrens to The Huntinglands
Frost Barbarians to North Kingdom of the Frutzi
Ice Barbarians to North Kingdom of Cruski
Snow Barbarians to North Kingdom of the Schnai
North Province to Aerdiaak
South Province removed, only Ahlissa
Glorioles to Hestmark Peaks
Scarlet Brotherhood to Shar
Shibboleth to Froghome
Sea Barons to Sea Baronies
Medegia changed from a See, and Pontylver now a capital.
Nulbish added as a city, and Rel Reven and Kalstrand removed (Great Kingdom/Ahlissa)
Resetenford added as a city (Spindrift isles)
Prelacy of Almor added as a country, with Chathold as the capital.
Ungara Batan removed as a city/capital.
Ekbir has gone from Caliphate to Sultanate- GOOD CHOICE!

Map additions:

White Plume Mountain
Ghost Tower of Inverness
Tomb of Horrors
Temple of Elemental Evil
Maure Castle
Castle Greyhawk
Caverns of Tsojcanth

 

[Kobold Stew]

And that's what I want for the next generation of gamers. A setting to make their own. I don't want it to be encumbered by the cruft of too much lore, and too many strictures. Make Greyhawk the setting you want it to be.

I know that their Greyhawk won't be my Greyhawk, and that's okay! Because I want them to fall in love with what they create. That's the point, right?

Well said.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

You could add Restenford as a map addition (nods to the L series)

Though Maure Castle already appears in Darlene’s map.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

You could add Restenford as a map addition (nods to the L series)

Though Maure Castle already appears in Darlene’s map.

Already made the changes. See above.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Yah you could say removing “See of…” from Medegia was a change, separating from a very real world faith that uses it.

Caverns of Tsojcanth is up in the Yatils.