Quoting the Rolling Stones? Sounds like something a bard would do. Just sayin'.![]()
What? No.
I just think that it's poor form when someone writes about you to not acknowledge it.

Quoting the Rolling Stones? Sounds like something a bard would do. Just sayin'.![]()
What? No.
I just think that it's poor form when someone writes about you to not acknowledge it.![]()
I still don't understand why some people get so hung up about stuff like that. Everything comes from somewhere, and anything that makes a setting feel more real is worth consideration in my book.Yah you could say removing “See of…” from Medegia was a change, separating from a very real world faith that uses it.
Again, why is this such a problem?If I had to guess, the reason is probably that "shibboleth" is a Hebrew word that was used as a password in the Tanakh/Old Testament and has become a byword for ways of secretly signaling oneself as a member of an in-group and/or excluding those who are not.
There's a scene from the West Wing that shows why it might be an issue pretty clearly, but in the interest of avoiding IRL political/religious discourse, I'll link to the Wikipedia article instead.
![]()
Shibboleth - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Maybe it's a clue that rebooted 2024 5e versions of these dungeons are on the way in the near future.There have been no WotC 5E publications whatsoever for Castle Maure, Ghost Tower of Iverness, the Temple of Elemental Evil (PotA was an homage, and the Goodman Games version is out of print) or most especially Cadtle Greyhawk.
So this particular set of 7 Dungeons is exceedingly strange.
Could be! Several possible explanations, but this strange all around.Maybe it's a clue that rebooted 2024 5e versions of these dungeons are on the way in the near future.
This isn't a version of 1e or 2e or 3e Greyhawk, or some continuation thereof, but a new Greyhawk for a new edition. Finding the origins of these Easter eggs is certainly interesting, but folks shouldn't make the mistake of relying on them to tell you anything else about the 2024 5e version of Greyhawk. You only know what is given to you in the new DMG.Some seem to be trying to use the name changes to "date" the map, and see if its being reset, or if its in the "current timeline."
Yet it clearly confirms to the original presentation of the Setting in many ways, and the Easyer Eggs on the map are some deep cuts. We can deduce quite a bit from this map, at least in broad strokes.This isn't a version of 1e or 2e or 3e Greyhawk, or some continuation thereof, but a new Greyhawk for a new edition. Finding the origins of these Easter eggs is certainly interesting, but folks shouldn't make the mistake of relying on them to tell you anything else about the 2024 5e version of Greyhawk. You only know what is given to you in the new DMG.
That's my feeling about it too. I think this is going to be the 5e version of "How to make a world, using examples from Greyhawk", and that's about it. I don't think its going to be a setting, I don't think its going to continue or do anything with the lore (remember "the lore/canon is whatever we put in the 5e rulebooks", and there ain't a lot of Greyhawk).This isn't a version of 1e or 2e or 3e Greyhawk, or some continuation thereof, but a new Greyhawk for a new edition. Finding the origins of these Easter eggs is certainly interesting, but folks shouldn't make the mistake of relying on them to tell you anything else about the 2024 5e version of Greyhawk. You only know what is given to you in the new DMG.