D&D (2024) D&D Pre-orders; this is sad

[Chaosmancer]

it’s not about it being hard, it is about you violating WotC’s copyright if you did…

With the subclass not being in the SRD, you have to be pretty careful when creating your ‘exact copy’ of it, so you are basically back to creating another 5e-like game, but you cannot create an actual clone

I can't violate copyright by running a home game with the rules. Nor do I think I am violating copyright if I make a google doc and share it with my friends.

I mean, sure, if I was trying to sell the game it would be pretty hard to do, but I'm not going to sell it, so what are they going to do? Constantly attempt to trawl the entire internet and every database, while sending spy software into people's computers to try and find if we are violating their copyright by making our own versions of the game?

 

[Chaltab]

My question too. Sometimes on these boards I feel like I am in an alternate reality. This whole thread literally makes no sense. I feel like I am reading 2+2 = cheese.

Somehow D&D Beyond giving a nice, but extremely minor, bonus to their subscribers has turned into imminent downfall of civilization.

I said I don't want to buy a game new... I hardly think that's some kind of massive overreaction. I say it because charts like this are ubiquitous in the video game industry due to greed. It all goes back to how Hasbro wants to monetize D&D.

Frankly I have never planned to buy this edition new because the bottom line is I don't trust Hasbro. That doesn't mean I think it's bad, I'm just not interested in supporting them.

I'm planning to use TOTV or A5E for my next campaign.

 

[Hussar]

I said I don't want to buy a game new... I hardly think that's some kind of massive overreaction. I say it because charts like this are ubiquitous in the video game industry due to greed. It all goes back to how Hasbro wants to monetize D&D.

Frankly I have never planned to buy this edition new because the bottom line is I don't trust Hasbro. That doesn't mean I think it's bad, I'm just not interested in supporting them.

I'm planning to use TOTV or A5E for my next campaign.

Refreshingly honest. Well done you.

 

[Chaltab]

Refreshingly honest. Well done you.

Do you think I'm usually not honest?

 

[Hussar]

Do you think I'm usually not honest?

Nope. Not at all and I can see how you might take it that way but that was totally not what I meant.

Typically, people put forward ten thousand different reasons why they might not be buying something. "I don't want to buy this" is refreshingly honest to see.

 

[mamba]

I can't violate copyright by running a home game with the rules.

agreed, but this started out as ‘if WotC stops printing books, someone else can do so instead thanks to the SRD’, not what anyone does with their home game

I mean, sure, if I was trying to sell the game it would be pretty hard to do

that was my point

 

[Cadence]

RE: End of Hardcopies?

It feels like if both
(a) WotC did something with D&D that many folks really, really didn't like (in this case, say, stop all print support and maybe even try to force a proprietary microtransaction laden VTT)
and
(b) A lot of the folks who really didn't like the change wanted to abandon ship over it but still loved whatever came right before the change

That the only difficulty in someone pulling a Paizo/PF on WotC is that there would already be several 5e clones with hardcopy books out there and so it isn't clear there would be only one of them eating WotC's lunch.

 

[Morrus]

Dystopias just arent about death and disease. It's about the haves and have nots. The ever-widening wealth gap. Which modern statistics show is getting wider and wider. The ever-shrinking middle class.

70 years ago you could afford a house and family on one paycheck. Today it's 2 for most Americans. And that 2 is barely stretching enough. A large large amount of Americans have no real savings and it's all going to come to a head when all of Gen X is retirement age not to mention Millennials when they hit retirement.

There is a sever wealth issue in modern America and the world. IE the 1% owning more wealth then the other 99% combined.

Edit: Speaking of medical. GoFundMe's largest amount of fundraisers are for medical bills. And the majority of the donations are from other poor people trying to help out.

Please keep the politics elsewhere.

 

[Parmandur]

I say it because charts like this are ubiquitous in the video game industry due to greed.

They are also ubiquitous in the TTRPG industry (see like every indie Kickstarter ever), due to wanting ro be clear for customers on what they can get at different levels. This one is pretty mild.

 

[jerryrice4949]

I said I don't want to buy a game new... I hardly think that's some kind of massive overreaction. I say it because charts like this are ubiquitous in the video game industry due to greed. It all goes back to how Hasbro wants to monetize D&D.

Frankly I have never planned to buy this edition new because the bottom line is I don't trust Hasbro. That doesn't mean I think it's bad, I'm just not interested in supporting them.

I'm planning to use TOTV or A5E for my next campaign.

You don’t think every publisher wants to monetize their game if the opportunity exists? Critical Role monetizes everything, would you buy from them? Pathfinder as well but with lesser success but not for lack of effort. For most business it is grow or die so monetization is critical.

I hear that you don’t like WoTC. But they are also made up of people. Talented authors and designers who it would be a shame not to support if you like what they develop/write.