D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

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The recent book The Making of Original Dungeons & Dragons 1970-1977 talks about the early years of D&D. In the book, authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro talk about the way the game, and its writers, approached certain issues. Not surprisingly, this revelation received aggressive "pushback" on social media because, well, that sort of thing does--in fact, one designer who worked with Gygax at the time labelled it "slanderous".

D&D historian Ben Riggs--author of Slaying the Dragon--delved into the facts. Note that the below was posted on Twitter, in that format, not as an article.

D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy.

The internet has been rending its clothes and gnashing its teeth over the introduction to an instant classic of TTRPG history, The Making of Original D&D 1970-1977. Published by Wizards of the Coast, it details the earliest days of D&D’s creation using amazing primary source materials.

Why then has the response been outrage from various corners of the internet? Well authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro mention that early D&D made light of slavery, disparaged women, and gave Hindu deities hit points. They also repeated Wizard’s disclaimer for legacy content which states:"These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed."

In response to this, an army of grognards swarmed social media to bite their shields and bellow. Early D&D author Rob Kuntz described Peterson and Tondro’s work as “slanderous.” On his Castle Oldskull blog, Kent David Kelly called it “disparagement.” These critics are accusing Peterson and Tondro of dishonesty. Lying, not to put too fine a point on it.So, are they lying? Are they making stuff up about Gary Gygax and early D&D?

Well, let's look at a specific example of what Peterson and Tondro describe as “misogyny “ from 1975's Greyhawk. Greyhawk was the first supplement ever produced for D&D. Written by Gary Gygax and Rob Kuntz, the same Rob Kuntz who claimed slander above, it was a crucial text in the history of the game. For example, it debuted the thief character class. It also gave the game new dragons, among them the King of Lawful Dragons and the Queen of Chaotic Dragons. The male dragon is good, and female dragon is evil. (See Appendix 1 below for more.)

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It is a repetition of the old trope that male power is inherently good, and female power is inherently evil. (Consider the connotations of the words witch and wizard, with witches being evil by definition, for another example.)

Now so-called defenders of Gygax and Kuntz will say that my reading of the above text makes me a fool who wouldn’t know dragon’s breath from a virtue signal. I am ruining D&D with my woke wokeness. Gygax and Kuntz were just building a fun game, and decades later, Peterson and Tondro come along to crap on their work by screeching about misogyny.

(I would also point out that as we are all white men of a certain age talking about misogyny, the worst we can expect is to be flamed online. Women often doing the same thing get rape or death threats.)

Critics of their work would say that Peterson and Tondro are reading politics into D&D. Except that when we return to the Greyhawk text, we see that it was actually Gygax and Kuntz who put “politics” into D&D.

The text itself comments on the fact that the lawful dragon is male, and the chaotic one is female. Gygax and Kuntz wrote: “Women’s lib may make whatever they wish from the foregoing.”


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The intent is clear. The female is a realm of chaos and evil, so of course they made their chaotic evil dragon a queen.

Yes, Gygax and Kuntz are making a game, but it is a game whose co-creator explicitly wrote into the rules that feminine power—perhaps even female equality—is by nature evil. There is little room for any other interpretation.

The so-called defenders of Gygax may now say that he was a man of his time, he didn’t know better, or some such. If only someone had told him women were people too in 1975! Well, Gygax was criticized for this fact of D&D at the time. And he left us his response.

Writing in EUROPA, a European fanzine, Gygax said:“I have been accused of being a nasty old sexist-male-Chauvinist-pig, for the wording in D&D isn’t what it should be. There should be more emphasis on the female role, more non-gendered names, and so forth."

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"I thought perhaps these folks were right and considered adding women in the ‘Raping and Pillaging[’] section, in the ‘Whores and Tavern Wenches’ chapter, the special magical part dealing with ‘Hags and Crones’...and thought perhaps of adding an appendix on ‘Medieval Harems, Slave Girls, and Going Viking’. Damn right I am sexist. It doesn’t matter to me if women get paid as much as men, get jobs traditionally male, and shower in the men’s locker room."

"They can jolly well stay away from wargaming in droves for all I care. I’ve seen many a good wargame and wargamer spoiled thanks to the fair sex. I’ll detail that if anyone wishes.”


So just to summarize here, Gygax wrote misogyny into the D&D rules. When this was raised with him as an issue at the time, his response was to offer to put rules on rape and sex slavery into D&D.

The outrage online directed at Peterson and Tondro is not only entirely misplaced and disproportional, and perhaps even dishonest in certain cases...

Part 2: D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy....it is also directly harming the legacies of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz and the entire first generation of genius game designers our online army of outraged grognards purport to defend.

How? Let me show you.The D&D player base is getting more diverse in every measurable way, including age, gender, sexual orientation, and race. To cite a few statistics, 81% of D&D players are Millenials or Gen Z, and 39% are women. This diversity is incredible, and not because the diversity is some blessed goal unto itself. Rather, the increasing diversity of D&D proves the vigor of the TTRPG medium. Like Japanese rap music or Soviet science fiction, the transportation of a medium across cultures, nations, and genders proves that it is an important method for exploring the human condition. And while TTRPGs are a game, they are also clearly an important method for exploring the human condition. The fact the TTRPG fanbase is no longer solely middle-aged Midwestern cis men of middle European descent...

...the fact that non-binary blerds and Indigenous trans women and fat Polish-American geeks like me and people from every bed of the human vegetable garden ...

find meaning in a game created by two white guys from the Midwest is proof that Gygax and Arneson were geniuses who heaved human civilization forward, even if only by a few feet.

So, as a community, how do we deal with the ugly prejudices of our hobby’s co-creator who also baked them into the game we love? We could pretend there is no problem at all, and say that anyone who mentions the problem is a liar. There is no misogyny to see. There is no **** and there is no stink, and anyone who says there is naughty word on your sneakers is lying and is just trying to embarrass you.

I wonder how that will go? Will all these new D&D fans decide that maybe D&D isn’t for them? They know the stink of misogyny, just like they know **** when they smell it. To say it isn’t there is an insult to their intelligence. If they left the hobby over this, it would leave our community smaller, poorer, and suggest that the great work of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz, and the other early luminaries on D&D was perhaps not so great after all…

We could take the route of Disney and Song of the South. Wizards could remove all the PDFs of early D&D from DriveThruRPG. They could refuse to ever reprint this material again. Hide it. Bury it. Erase it all with copyright law and lawyers. Yet no matter how deeply you bury the past, it always tends to come back up to the surface again. Heck, there are whole podcast series about that. And what will all these new D&D fans think when they realize that a corporation tried to hide its own mistakes from them?

Again, maybe they decide D&D isn’t the game for them. Or maybe when someone tells you there is **** on your shoe, you say thanks, clean it off, and move on.

We honor the old books, but when they tell a reader they are a lesser human being, we should acknowledge that is not the D&D of 2024. Something like...

“Hey reader, we see you in all your wondrous multiplicity of possibility, and if we were publishing this today, it wouldn’t contain messages and themes telling some of you that you are less than others. So we just want to warn you. That stuff’s in there.”

Y’know, something like that legacy content warning they put on all those old PDFs on DriveThruRPG. And when we see something bigoted in old D&D, we talk about it. It lets the new, broad, and deep tribe of D&D know that we do not want bigotry in D&D today. Talking about it welcomes the entire human family into the hobby.To do anything less is to damn D&D to darkness. It hobbles its growth, gates its community, denies the world the joy of the game, and denies its creators their due. D&D’s creators were visionary game designers. They were also people, and people are kinda ****** up. So a necessary step in making D&D the sort of cultural pillar that it deserves to be is to name its bigotries and prejudices when you see them. Failure to do so hurts the game by shrinking our community and therefore shrinking the legacy of its creators.

Appendix 1: Yeah, I know Chaos isn’t the same as Evil in OD&D.

But I would also point out as nerdily as possible that on pg. 9 of Book 1 of OD&D, under “Character Alignment, Including Various Monsters and Creatures,” Evil High Priests are included under the “Chaos” heading, along with the undead. So I would put to you that Gygax did see a relationship between Evil and Chaos at the time.

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Look, folks, we know how a conversation like this goes on the internet. Because, internet. Read the rules you agreed to before replying. The banhammer will be used on those who don't do what they agreed to.
 

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Wait, what is the "us vs. them" in Volo's lore? You are a very unclear communicator.
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Nobody cares what you think about the new art. This is a thread about sexism in the game and the post you quoted isnt about you, I just segue on your "lost camadery" point to argue that if (general) you find theres more division within the fan base, its probably because the "old ways" are no longer working.
Maybe your new ways aren't working... and that's the problem... new doesn't always auto mean good. Again, you seem heck bent on the old v new thing. And that's the us v them thing... not my thing. I try and mix anything I enjoy. Again we were full onboard 2014 5e...
 

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I am not sure I have ever reported anyone of ENWorld but it is tempting in this thread.

The arguments are mainly centered on sociopolitical viewpoints and I am not sure the argument is going anywhere.

Basics is that D&D has always included questionable content and views. I cannot defend GG's views because I truly believe that every group should be a mix of genders. My games are so much better because of the mix. They have more depth and nuance.

I have gamed with some misogynists over the years. I have one close neurodivergent friend whose mother really twisted him up about women and all the women in his life died early or he gravitated to those who would treat him poorly. He was a member of my gaming group for years and I had to counsel him a lot but I always tried to help because he would do anything for his friends and that included the women in the group.

The only point to that story is that we cannot know what happened to someone to cause such spiteful views; however, I do have a favorable view of GG and other early designers because they created something that has brought me joy and created close bonds to some wonderful people of all genders, persuasions, and viewpoints.

I find it a bit sad that fan communities can get so divided when the game used to bring people together in a way that transcended a lot of the hate and vitriol.
 
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haha... sexism is not an essential element of the D&D. Never was for me... heck we had "girls" in our game since day 1. My intro to d&d was in late 70s from my older girl cousin. I never say it as a boy only thing as a kid. Now was it like 85% boys... yeah... but I never didn't have "girls" in our games as kids.
Why did you put “girls” in quotation marks? That’s not meant to be a leading question or anything, I’m genuinely confused by the choice.
 

Why did you put “girls” in quotation marks? That’s not meant to be a leading question or anything, I’m genuinely confused by the choice.
Because I didn't want anyone to think saying girls was negative or anything... I only meant it that at the time we were just kids... so it was just boys and girls... kids.

We had girls play in our games since like day 1... I never didn't associate d&d with girls playing, even though they were like 85/15 split... now it's more like 60/40 in our games for a long time.
 

You first, bud! ;)



I think there are a lot of things both in the piece and stuff that has been posted in this thread by other users which makes things less "multifaceted" and more obvious.



A weaker example does not hinder anything if it is supported by other things. In this case, he is taking what looks like a weaker example and adds context which makes it much stronger. This is concern-trolling: worrying about how something looks decontextualized from the rest of the piece misses what is actually being said.



I think there's a difference between scrutiny and trying to pick nits with things through decontextualization from the whole. Again, you're really big on focusing on #3 while really loving to ignore #2.



Bud, I think you walked into the debate rather misinformed. Riggs' thread (on Twitter) is in response to the backlash against a book by two authors on the history of D&D as a game, which happens to mention Gary's sexism. Riggs didn't suddenly decide to make this thread, it's a reaction to people whinging online about people bringing up Gary's shortcomings in a historical book.
Thank you. You are right. It's Jon Peterson, whose books I have read ("The Elusive Shift," "Game Wizards.") I appreciate the correction!
 

Because I didn't want anyone to think saying girls was negative or anything... I only meant it that at the time we were just kids... so it was just boys and girls... kids.
Oh, ok. For the record, I don’t think the quotation marks helped make that any clearer. But thanks for the follow-up clarification, I see what you were saying now. Have a good one!
 


I am saying you are not liking the diversity they show now, plenty of youtubers rail against it too
I think that is assigning your view to his words.

I think some of the new art I am seeing in the 2024 PHB is cartoony and childish while some of it is excellent. I just like a different art style. It is one reason I could never watch Steven Universe or Adventure Time. I just hated the art designs.
 

Oh, ok. For the record, I don’t think the quotation marks helped make that any clearer.
I'm speed posting here... lol so yeah. "girls" "boys" as opposed to adult men and woman, or whatever... I mean I was talking like 9-10 through the teen years. When we started playing the game.
 

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