D&D (2024) Reworked…revised…redone….but

[mamba]

And yet they intentionally took something that is clearly an extensive update in a lot of ways and refused to differentiate it by name.

2024 revision is a different name, that it is not 5.5 or 6e has been explained, it is compatible so would only add confusion

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sure. You can think so. Everyone has opinions.

It doesn't change that how something is named is a choice, and one that has many consequences. The one they are trying to avoid this time is having to revise all the Adventures and obsoleting the supply (whereas that time, obsoleting the supply was part of their reasoning for doing it).

Which one is more of a marketing cash grab? I would argue 3.5. You would disagree. Our opinions have even weight (though I work in selling D&D books whereas you don't care if they sell, you just want them to be done your way).

I don't want them to be done my way, I want them done to make the best game the designers can make, to meet their design goals, and I don't want the most important of those goals to be profit.

 

[mamba]

What will the books say?

ask me when the books are available, at a minimum they look nothing like the old books, which if they wanted to deceive people were the first thing they’d do

 

[Micah Sweet]

2024 revision is a different name, that it is not 5.5 or 6e has been explained, it is compatible so would only add confusion

3.0 and 3.5 were compatible enough for adventure content, which is all WotC wants put of 5.5's backward compatibility, do I still don't see the problem.

Does the new book say "2024 Revision" anywhere on it, or is that just Crawford having to differentiate it in interviews?

 

[Micah Sweet]

ask me when the books are available, at a minimum they look nothing like the old books, which if they wanted to deceive people were the first thing they’d do

D&D has changed the exterior art of many books without changing the inside, so that gets you nothing.

 

[KYRON45]

have they? what is that?

I’m quite sure you know.
They wanted to do away with the edition naming convention because they wanted new players to not be confused and existing players not to complain. No I do not have a source as I am not a D&D informational scholar.

 

[mamba]

Except that 3.0/3.5 were not compatible. 3.5 was a major change in style and feel.

make up your mind, just before this you said they named it 3.5 despite being compatible to argue for this now being 5.5

They said the same thing with 3.0/3.5 but still called it 3.5.

I get the same feeling with 5.5.

and I feel like you just don’t like WotC because your arguments are not consistent, the only thing consistent is that you do no like the name that WotC chose

If you use 2014, then you have to upgrade it to 2024 if using the 2024 rules. They made is forward-compatible and that is different than backwards compatible.

no, that is you misunderstanding what backwards compatible means

 

[mellored]

3.0 and 3.5 were compatible enough for adventure content, which is all WotC wants put of 5.5's backward compatibility, do I still don't see the problem.

Does the new book say "2024 Revision" anywhere on it, or is that just Crawford having to differentiate it in interviews?

Nothing on the cover, at least from the posted images I found.

My guess is that it says something in small print on the back.

 

[R_J_K75]

I'll be happy to play or run other campaigns that mix-and-match, though - the parameters set out for combining the two seem pretty clear-cut.

I think it really depends on how often you play, for how long and how much time outside of the game you spend reading and/or prepping. I'm sure it may be pretty clear cut and easy for some to mix and match their tables. Me and my players just ultimately didn't care for 2014 5E for the amount of time we plays seems like it'd be twice the effort

You can just as easily say "Okay, for this campaign we'll be using the 2024 ruleset only."

If I run a 2024 5E game that is my intention

 

[mellored]

Amazon and D&D beyond both list them as "2024 Player's Handbook".

And yea. It says "revised and expanded" and "2024" on the back.