WotC How much does Hasbro / WotC impact your feelings towards D&D?

[UngeheuerLich]

Most of their "scandals" are pretty average for a corporation. They listen to and respond quickly (for a corporation) to feedback. I give them a 1 because I don't base my choice of any product based on this kind of stuff unless their behavior is far worse.

I am still annoyed that all those things had negative impact on the 2024 rules.

They feel a bit rushed...

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Doesn't affect me in the slightest.

The worst thing that we, as fans, do is to confuse the business with the output. The reason why we have the phrase, "You don't want to see the sausage getting made," is for that reason- the end result is what matters.

I think that people (either pro, or anti) conflate the business with the product. They aren't the same thing. But it's all part and parcel of the modern sickness - of people who are fans of the MCU wanting to get into the details of Disney's business, of people who are fans of sports teams learning the ins and outs of cap management, and so on.

If it makes you happier, that's great! But generally, it can feel like one of my long and pointless essays homework.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Doesn't affect me in the slightest.

The worst thing that we, as fans, do is to confuse the business with the output. The reason why we have the phrase, "You don't want to see the sausage getting made," is for that reason- the end result is what matters.

I think that people (either pro, or anti) conflate the business with the product. They aren't the same thing. But it's all part and parcel of the modern sickness - of people who are fans of the MCU wanting to get into the details of Disney's business, of people who are fans of sports teams learning the ins and outs of cap management, and so on.

If it makes you happier, that's great! But generally, it can feel like one of my long and pointless essays homework.

I'm not really a fan of the company or the output, not anymore anyway.

 

[Alzrius]

I am still annoyed that all those things had negative impact on the 2024 rules.

They feel a bit rushed...

That's not why they're rushed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I attended some seminars by Ben Riggs, who's working on a new book about the development of 5E (mostly by interviewing people who were laid off in 2023, along with some others), this past Gen Con.

One of the major takeaways was that the D&D team at WotC is overworked and understaffed. He specifically cited instances of the staff putting books to press knowing that they had errors in them, but not being able to correct them because there simply wasn't enough time for them to do so.

My guess is that this is the same for the 2024 rules.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I'm not really a fan of the company or the output, not anymore anyway.

I had not gotten that impression based on your prior posts!

 

[TheSword]

That's not why they're rushed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I attended some seminars by Ben Riggs, who's working on a new book about the development of 5E (mostly by interviewing people who were laid off in 2023, along with some others), this past Gen Con.

Well there’s nothing like quite like unbiased sources when you’re trying to reach the truth!

 

[UngeheuerLich]

That's not why they're rushed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I attended some seminars by Ben Riggs, who's working on a new book about the development of 5E (mostly by interviewing people who were laid off in 2023, along with some others), this past Gen Con.

One of the major takeaways was that the D&D team at WotC is overworked and understaffed. He specifically cited instances of the staff putting books to press knowing that they had errors in them, but not being able to correct them because there simply wasn't enough time for them to do so.

My guess is that this is the same for the 2024 rules.

Some of this understuffness has to do with hasbro.

 

[BookTenTiger]

I'm not really a fan of the company or the output, not anymore anyway.

In the spirit of mutual understanding, I think you, Micah, are an example of the beguiling nature of a 5 who doesn't play 5e. Personally, for me, I get confused why you post so much about Hasbro, WotC, and 5e when you also post a lot about how you don't play it, don't plan on playing it, and prefer Level Up (an excellent game, I agree) to 5e.

From my own perspective as a 1, it's just not something I myself would spend a lot of digital ink on. But I know that from your perspective it's different! It might be why you get a lot of pushback though.

You are absolutely free to post whatever you want. But maybe this thread can help you and everyone else as well understand why sometimes there's a disconnect between different ways to post about 5e?

 

[Minigiant]

That's not why they're rushed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I attended some seminars by Ben Riggs, who's working on a new book about the development of 5E (mostly by interviewing people who were laid off in 2023, along with some others), this past Gen Con.

One of the major takeaways was that the D&D team at WotC is overworked and understaffed. He specifically cited instances of the staff putting books to press knowing that they had errors in them, but not being able to correct them because there simply wasn't enough time for them to do so.

My guess is that this is the same for the 2024 rules.

Yeah

2024 is rushed because they started work on it as late as possible to not hurt sales but don''t have the staff to produce the product correctly in 2 years.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Well there’s nothing like quite like unbiased sources when you’re trying to reach the truth!

@Alzrius as well.

I truly appreciate the work that Ben Riggs does... but as I have alluded to before, I have a strong preference for Peterson and Appelcline. Riggs tends to try to make the history more interesting and cinematic by trying to give you heroes and villains, which I find off-putting, instead of just letting the events speak for themselves.

Again, I look forward to what he uncovers, but as we get closer to the modern time, it isn't history, it's journalism.