D&D (2024) Hobby Store Exclusive (Special Cover) PHB Pre-Orders Cancelled

[FitzTheRuke]

The August 19th statement was a good start.

If the company were viewed mostly favorably, that could be enough.

The lack of trust in WotC is of their own making, but it's also extremely overblown.

I think that comes from two things: 1) The passion of the fanbase, which blows hot and cold; and 2) YouTubers have found that rage fuels clicks and clicks = cash. In this particular thread, there's no direct YouTube influence, but social media has created a culture of rage in fandoms across the board, using point 1's passion (and how it blows hot and cold) as a revenue stream.

It's a sad state of affairs, really. WotC would be smart to hire someone who is actually skilled at modern PR. It's a minefield, but I think it can be navigated with the right skills. Hiring is not their strong suit ATM, though. The company is better at firing. Such is the nature of manipulating stock.

 

[Stormonu]

Clearly, they need to just stop making alt covers before it gets like the comic cover craziness back in the '90s.

Dust Jackets/Covers are the way they should go for customizing the book covers. WotC and/or 3rd parties could probably make a killing with making them available with your favorite alternate artwork on them (or for the ones I have, transparent covers so you can put in your own).

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Clearly, they need to just stop making alt covers before it gets like the comic cover craziness back in the '90s.

Clearly you haven't been collecting comics lately. Right NOW is MUCH MUCH WORSE than the 90's ever tried to be. Like, by an exponential factor.

Dust Jackets/Covers are the way they should go for customizing the book covers. WotC and/or 3rd parties could probably make a killing with making them available with your favorite alternate artwork on them (or for the ones I have, transparent covers so you can put in your own).

Hmm... there must be a reason they haven't tried that trick. I'm not sure what it is, but I suspect that if they felt that would work, they'd have done it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Clearly you haven't been collecting comics lately. Right NOW is MUCH MUCH WORSE than the 90's ever tried to be. Like, by an exponential factor.

Hmm... there must be a reason they haven't tried that trick. I'm not sure what it is, but I suspect that if they felt that would work, they'd have done it.

I mostly stopped collecting in the late '90s, right before Marvel collapsed. For the most part that's as far as I care to take the stories as well (though there are some solid exceptions).

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I mostly stopped collecting in the late '90s, right before Marvel collapsed. For the most part that's as far as I care to take the stories as well (though there are some solid exceptions).

There are some really exceptional comics these days, but the 90's weren't near as bad as their reputation would suggest. There was a lot of garbage, sure, but some all-time great comics (such as Sandman, Preacher, Bone, etc etc) are really 90's comics.

 

[mamba]

It was missing basic functionality. By your definition as long as they claimed it was implemented... it was.

no idea what it was missing, I am not using DDB. If you could select to use the 2014 spells or the 2024 spells, then the feature got implemented, buggy or not.

Without it DDB would always default to the 2024 ones and there is nothing you can do about it, so no, they cannot just claim to have implemented it, you have a way to tell

 

[mamba]

The only statement they could put out is "We need to wait and see" and that's the same as waiting and seeing.

sometimes a ‘we are aware, we are on it’ is better than radio silence, I’d even argue it frequently is

 

[Imaro]

no idea what it was missing, I am not using DDB. If you could select to use the 2014 spells or the 2024 spells, then the feature got implemented, buggy or not.

Without it DDB would always default to the 2024 ones and there is nothing you can do about it, so no, they cannot just claim to have implemented it, you have a way to tell

And yet you speak on it as if you have first hand knowledge. Yeah if you haven't even used DDB before and after 2024 was implemented this isn't really a valuable conversation to have.

 

[mamba]

And yet you speak on it as if you have first hand knowledge. Yeah if you haven't even used DDB before and after 2024 was implemented this isn't really a valuable conversation to have.

where do I say I have first hand knowledge with the bugs / char builder…

I said if they roll the feature out in a week, then it was not a huge effort, while others basically claimed the codebase was so crappy that they could never do it in the timeframe and cannot roll it out that fast at all and were basically lying in their announcement.

Turns out they did roll it out… was anyone expecting zero bugs in this transition (whether for the spells in particular or in general)? I doubt it, so there being some bugs is something everyone expected (or at a minimum should have expected)

 

[Stormonu]

Clearly you haven't been collecting comics lately. Right NOW is MUCH MUCH WORSE than the 90's ever tried to be. Like, by an exponential factor.

Hmm... there must be a reason they haven't tried that trick. I'm not sure what it is, but I suspect that if they felt that would work, they'd have done it.

I think it's the price - those official ones almost cost as much as the book itself. Though honestly those seem vastly overpriced.

And I had no idea they were still doing alt covers for comics - I thought that had fizzled when Marvel had gone under.