Spoilers Agatha All Along discussion

[Stalker0]

Well, the Fantastic Four movie is rumored to be a 1960s period piece. That makes her being Franklin's governess awkward. I mean, sure, time travel, but still awkward for anything that isn't really core to the plot.

I already feel that they have used the notion that Agatha (as the neighbor in wandavision) already looked after Wanda's kids periodically. so thats a wink at the old governess role

 

[Marc Radle]

Well, the Fantastic Four movie is rumored to be a 1960s period piece. That makes her being Franklin's governess awkward. I mean, sure, time travel, but still awkward for anything that isn't really core to the plot.

It’s not quite that - it isn’t a period piece as such … reports are that is set in a different multiverse in which it is modern day but what a modern day would be if the whole 1960’s Tomorrow Land ascetic became a reality in the modern world.

By the end of the movie, the Fantastic Four are said to somehow end up in ‘our’ MCU reality …

 

[MGibster]

Well, the Fantastic Four movie is rumored to be a 1960s period piece. That makes her being Franklin's governess awkward. I mean, sure, time travel, but still awkward for anything that isn't really core to the plot.

I won't argue this is a mistake, but the idea of a private group building a ship and going into space is more believable now than it was in the 1960s.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

It’s not quite that - it isn’t a period piece as such … reports are that is set in a different multiverse in which it is modern day but what a modern day would be if the whole 1960’s Tomorrow Land ascetic became a reality in the modern world.

So the same universe as The Incredibles. Good thing none of them wear capes.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

So we now know that Billy ended up in the body of a boy who died at the same time the Hex collapsed and Billy and Tommy stopped existing. Will Tommy be a spirit trapped somewhere for Billy to find or did someone else near the Hex also die at the same time and Tommy's spirit was drawn to that body?

 

[trappedslider]

I'm just waiting for someone to say "Billy don't be a hero"

 

[pukunui]

So we now know that Billy ended up in the body of a boy who died at the same time the Hex collapsed and Billy and Tommy stopped existing. Will Tommy be a spirit trapped somewhere for Billy to find or did someone else near the Hex also die at the same time and Tommy's spirit was drawn to that body?

Billy said he could feel that Tommy was out there somewhere but couldn't find him. It's not clear if that means Billy can sense Tommy's spirit or if he is also possessing someone else. I'm inclined to think Tommy is a disembodied spirit, since he was "just" a speedster and not a witch like Billy and their mother.

 

[Older Beholder]

So we now know that Billy ended up in the body of a boy who died at the same time the Hex collapsed and Billy and Tommy stopped existing. Will Tommy be a spirit trapped somewhere for Billy to find or did someone else near the Hex also die at the same time and Tommy's spirit was drawn to that body?

Billy said he could feel that Tommy was out there somewhere but couldn't find him. It's not clear if that means Billy can sense Tommy's spirit or if he is also possessing someone else. I'm inclined to think Tommy is a disembodied spirit, since he was "just" a speedster and not a witch like Billy and their mother.

I'm not sure Toby (I mean Tommy) would have found his spirit in another body, Billy is a Witch, but to my understanding Tommy is just a speedy guy and doesn't really have access to that kind of magic.

Also, it's interesting that Lilia put the Sigil on Billy (before the crash, and before he was even Billy Maximoff), that would explain why Wanda couldn't find him, as he was hidden from all Witches. But I'm still not sure why she did that?

 

[pukunui]

Also, it's interesting that Lilia put the Sigil on Billy (before the crash, and before he was even Billy Maximoff), that would explain why Wanda couldn't find him, as he was hidden from all Witches. But I'm still not sure why she did that?

As I mentioned above, Lilia went into her oracular trance shortly before creating the sigil. She came out of it as she left her tent to look for William to return his jacket. So she wasn't aware that she'd done it.

 

[Older Beholder]

As I mentioned above, Lilia went into her oracular trance shortly before creating the sigil. She came out of it as she left her tent to look for William to return his jacket. So she wasn't aware that she'd done it.

I get that, but I'm still not sure why she placed the Sigil in the first place?
Maybe she saw something in the future that we weren't shown?