D&D (2024) Using AI for Your Home Game

[ECMO3]

Labor is still part of the 'value' though. When you pay for something, the cost you pay is calculated in part from how much it cost to make in edition to how much they think they can crush out of you.

No it isn't. Not unless there is price fixing (and even in that case the black market will still generally undercut it).

Without price fixing the cost is determined by the intersection of the supply and demand curves. The cost to make the item does affect the supply curve, but it is incorrect to state that this is always included in the final price.

Food in the USA regularly sells for less than the cost it takes to make it. In some cases when this does not happen price fixing on food forces people to buy it at 50 times what it would cost them (example: cane sugar).

 

[ezo]

Maybe someday AI will replace me as a DM, but that is not a bad thing, especially not if it does as good a job as it has at replacing artists.

OMG I SO look forward to this day when the AI and run the game and I just get to PLAY!!!!

As a near-forever DM, PLEASE bring this on sooner than later.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Sure that exact image could not be made without their labor, but another one could be and for the value of their labor another 100 or more could be made and some of them WILL be better than the one they produce.

Indeed. I feel there is a confusion between value, as determined by the market, ie, the price at which a transaction is done between a buyer and a seller, and the price the person that takes 10 hours to create an image would expect to sell. Let's say that the person excepts to earn 15 € per hour (he's living in Luxembourg and wants the minimum houly wage). His selling price is 150 € for the image. But if there is noone no buy it, because (a) they replace him with artists accepting to work for below minimum wage because they are from another country like the US where you can get the same image made for 50 $ (b) they replace him with a free computer program, getting the image for the cost of electricity running the program for seconds (like 5 cents), then the market value for his image isn't 150 €. The transaction just doesn't happen and the image isn't sold.

They should not have to pay royalties if their art is available on the open domain, to include if it was sold.

Or if the local law determines that society is better served by not extending copyright protection to training AI. The goal of the TDM exceptions laws, and the project by the EU commission to gather a database of pictures present in all European museums, or release photos under CC for commercial training purpose are all adequate alternatives. Same if say, the Chinese government asks every art teacher in China to create 10 images on their free time to train an AI (given the population of China, it's probably enough).

 

[Not a Decepticon]

I get the opposite effect. As a DM I use AI to give my players a wonderful, immersive experience at a price point that I (and they) can afford.

Maybe someday AI will replace me as a DM, but that is not a bad thing, especially not if it does as good a job as it has at replacing artists.

Did Ai write this bland, generic non-argument for you too?

 

[Vaalingrade]

It's really the seething, barely concealed disdain for artists and the cold, metallic purr of economic mumbo jumbo that make you sure that the tech bros really care about the shared human experience that is art.

 

[cbwjm]

OMG I SO look forward to this day when the AI and run the game and I just get to PLAY!!!!

As a near-forever DM, PLEASE bring this on sooner than later.

Yeah, it'll be pretty cool, I can see solo players using it a fair bit. I think what people don't realise is that you can have both an AI DM and have people running their own game without it.

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

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The right image is a representation of Jesus, an artwork that was displayed in a Spanish church. The left image is the result after a (probably good intentioned) worshipper decide to put some work to make it look better.

I am convinced that the added work didn't translate to added value.

I'm not so sure about that last part. The added work turned what was a pretty generic representation of Jesus into a world-famous painting and tourist attraction that has generated tens of thousands of euros in revenue for the local community.

Anyway, today one could have used an AI model with inpaiting to fill in the white gaps on a photo of the painting to use as a template, instead of trying to do everything freehand and messing up.

 

[Mistwell]

Did Ai write this bland, generic non-argument for you too?

That's exactly what a Decepticon would say.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Yeah, it'll be pretty cool, I can see solo players using it a fair bit.

I can see that, but I don't think it would replace the experience as a big part of the appeal of RPGs for me is to play with friends, and I may not use an AI replacement as much. But it will be nice to have for people who are in a place wiht no (suitable) group.

I think what people don't realise is that you can have both an AI DM and have people running their own game without it.

Sure. AI only provides a new offer, it doesn't forbid anyone to DM (or draw their characters).

 

[Starfox]

OMG I SO look forward to this day when the AI and run the game and I just get to PLAY!!!!

As a near-forever DM, PLEASE bring this on sooner than later.

I started another thread here about the availability of AI GMs, and a link was posted in the very first reply: Exists. Any AI Gamemasters Out There?