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[Lakesidefantasy]

Do you prefer Ancestry (Pathfinder), Heritage (Level Up) or Lineage (Tales of the Valiant)?

I prefer all of those to species.

 

[AlViking]

I prefer all of those to species.

What's wrong with species? It seems pretty obvious that a dwarf and a tabaxi are not the same species.

 

[payn]

It's a decade old meme.

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[payn]

Hey I hope you’re right. I clearly see a lot more negativity than you do. Many jumping to daggerheart and mcdm etc and there seems real hate for wotc. Where do I see this comic book YouTube page and wizkids message boards and even threads on this site and its been more prevalent in 2022-now

Oh yeah? This reminds me of when 13th age was going to wipe D&D out for moving on from 4E.

 

[mamba]

Hey I hope you’re right. I clearly see a lot more negativity than you do.

it’s not that I am not seeing it, it’s more that it is not exactly new and it made no difference so far

Many jumping to daggerheart and mcdm etc and there seems real hate for wotc.

they are a huge success if they were to get 1-2 percent of the D&D base, there is just such a difference in size between D&D and everything else that even they are not going to make a dent

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

What's wrong with species? It seems pretty obvious that a dwarf and a tabaxi are not the same species.

It just makes me think of Star Trek and Star Wars more than it makes me think of Dungeons and Dragons. It breaks immersion for me.

 

[Shadowdweller00]

The whinings about replacing race with species are stupid beyond belief. And almost overwhelmingly nothing more than disgusting attempts at pushing culture war BS on the gaming community. Species is the more factually accurate term. Plus decoupling species from stat bonuses opens up a whole host of character options that would previously have been suboptimal and therefore rare in actual play.

 

[AlViking]

It just makes me think of Star Trek and Star Wars more than it makes me think of Dungeons and Dragons. It breaks immersion for me.

It's just a word, and an accurate one at that. We call homo sapiens and neanderthal different species. Cats and dogs are different species. Ancestry make me think of family tree. Heritage is kind of meaningless and is a cultural thing meaning it shouldn't apply to all humans but could apply to multiple species. Lineage is just another term for ancestry and smacks of language that has long been used to justify racism.

 

[TiQuinn]

It's just a word, and an accurate one at that. We call homo sapiens and neanderthal different species. Cats and dogs are different species. Ancestry make me think of family tree. Heritage is kind of meaningless and is a cultural thing meaning it shouldn't apply to all humans but could apply to multiple species. Lineage is just another term for ancestry and smacks of language that has long been used to justify racism.

Ancestry, Heritage and Lineage are pretty much synonyms of each other and speak more to family names and relations than it does species. I think if Species sounds too scientific, which I understand since words also help convey a setting and genre despite what they may strictly mean, I prefer Kind as as an alternative.

 

[AlViking]

Ancestry, Heritage and Lineage are pretty much synonyms of each other and speak more to family names and relations than it does species. I think if Species sounds too scientific, which I understand since words also help convey a setting and genre despite what they may strictly mean, I prefer Kind as as an alternative.

I don't think there is a good option.

When DnD started you could kind of see all of the options as being distantly related because they all looked basically the same. But at some point we introduced things like the aaracokra which are obviously unrelated to humans.

If they had always used species no one would have batted an eye.