D&D 5E How do you do Bastions?

[Horwath]

You don't think scale makes a difference?

if there is magic, then scale does not matter, just use rules for bastion and what buildings are there.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

A facility damaged by an attack comes back online automatically after one turn. I really don't want to be the one "defending" the bastion rules, but I feel like people aren't reading the whole thing through and I'm not going to copy+paste the entire chapter here.

The "bastion can't be destroyed" thing isn't a joke or exaggeration. With the exceptions of what I noted earlier re: Fall of a Bastion, a Bastion can't be lost. Your Bastion being attacked is at worst a temporary inconvenience.

Sure, it can be rebuilt. Can’t any bricks and mortar?

 

[Micah Sweet]

if there is magic, then scale does not matter, just use rules for bastion and what buildings are there.

Disagree. Magic has rules too. You can have fantasy and consistency at the same time.

 

[Horwath]

Disagree. Magic has rules too. You can have fantasy and consistency at the same time.

sure, you can make mobile bastion in an RV style where everything is compact and no courtyards or anything.

 

[Arilyn]

Sure, it can be rebuilt. Can’t any bricks and mortar?

The bastion reforms for free. It just kinda regenerates with 0 effort from the players. New workers just show up too.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The bastion reforms for free. It just kinda regenerates with 0 effort from the players. New workers just show up too.

I love the idea of player-run structures and rulership, but the execution here follows principles neatly opposite of what I want.

 

[SkidAce]

The bastion reforms for free. It just kinda regenerates with 0 effort from the players. New workers just show up too.

The question is:

Does it "poof" magically come back unrealistically in a single day, or does it come back via narrative...i.e. over a certain time it is "rebuilt" and after that time (say a month) the players and GM carry on..?

The flavor and tone of the campaign would set the expectation for us.

 

[SkidAce]

Just as an aside, if it poofs back magically in a day or less, I'd hire adventurers to be my kingdom's fort, strongholds, and bastions.

Really would work out cheaper.

 

[Arilyn]

The question is:

Does it "poof" magically come back unrealistically in a single day, or does it come back via narrative...i.e. over a certain time it is "rebuilt" and after that time (say a month) the players and GM carry on..?

The flavor and tone of the campaign would set the expectation for us.

As written, it's just "poof." I imagine many groups will tinker with the system though.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The question is:

Does it "poof" magically come back unrealistically in a single day, or does it come back via narrative...i.e. over a certain time it is "rebuilt" and after that time (say a month) the players and GM carry on..?

The flavor and tone of the campaign would set the expectation for us.

The issue that I see is that it comes back at the appointed time regardless of the campaign's narrative. I guess you're just supposed to make something up that fits the rules as written? That's my problem with 4e all over again.