D&D (2024) Its till just me or is the 2024 MM heavily infused by more 4e influences?

[mamba]

Rend allows me to narrate anything

it does that, as long as you do not care that whatever you describe has the same outcome

 

[Fifth Element]

IMO, if you start with narrative elements and then design gameplay to match, a lot of that problem goes away.

Why would you start with one rather than designing both in conjunction with each other?

 

[Fifth Element]

It doesn't have to be perfect, but it could be better, particularly if they wanted to support players with different tastes who all love D&D.

The idea that the game only supports players within a narrow band of tastes is very, very silly.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Why would you start with one rather than designing both in conjunction with each other?

That would probably be ideal. Certainly better IMO than starting with the mechanics you want to throw at the PCs.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The idea that the game only supports players within a narrow band of tastes is very, very silly.

I didn't say it was narrow. Read my post. I said it could be better.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

it does that, as long as you do not care that whatever you describe has the same outcome

As opposed to the claw doing 2d6+8 slashing and the bite doing 2d8+8 Piercing? Those are so different?

Look, I agree thar the line is drawn somewhere. I too would not prefer monsters to have attacks that say "melee: +4; 10 damage. Range: +5; 6 damage. Narrate!

But many of 5e's 2014 monsters have attacks that differ only by a few points of damage, or a damage type. When their statblocks are often, IMO, already way too big. So some streamlining to fit a couple of more interesting different abilities is more than welcome.

I haven't seen that green dragon block in a long time. I can't remember the miasma attack. Why would it be hard to narrate? Wouldn't the Dragon spit it out, or shake it off its scales, or summon it with magic, or manifest it with majesty, or any other of a number of mundane or magic means? I can't imagine how any ability of the sorr would be hard to narrate.

Are you sure that there isn't some other reason that you don't like it?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

That would probably be ideal. Certainly better IMO than starting with the mechanics you want to throw at the PCs.

I'm pretty sure that they ARE designed exactly as you describe would be ideal. You just don't like the results.

 

[mamba]

As opposed to the claw doing 2d6+8 slashing and the bite doing 2d8+8 Piercing? Those are so different?

that is why I had no issue with that being combined for the Lion (back when this first came up), for dragons it has different reach and different damage, not just damage type

Look, I agree thar the line is drawn somewhere. I too would not prefer monsters to have attacks that say "melee: +4; 10 damage. Range: +5; 6 damage. Narrate!

that is what Rend does though

I haven't seen that green dragon block in a long time. I can't remember the miasma attack. Why would it be hard to narrate?

because I want it to make sense, not just some BS I have to invent to excuse its existence

Are you sure that there isn't some other reason that you don't like it?

there isn't another one to my knowledge, what are you thinking of? Because someone claimed it is 4e-ish? I could not care less about that. I have no experience with 4e, I assume it would not have been for me, I assume it was a good system regardless. I've been using Bloodied for a while now

 

[Hussar]

because I want it to make sense, not just some BS I have to invent to excuse its existence

It always baffles me to see people playing a game of imagination complaining that they have to use their imagination during the game.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

But wouldn't it be better if a hill giant smacking a halfling did send them hurtling across the room?

When did that happen? Which edition?