General star wars talk/discussion/complaining

[payn]

"Last name? I don't have a last name... Let's see... I'm holding oranges, so let's just go with... Holdo"

An rebel sympathetic engineer designs the tether tech with a glaring weakness he keeps hidden, but dies sneaking the plans out to a spy that happens to be his child who dies getting the plans to Holdo. Directed by JJ Abrams.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I've had a good time with a lot of Disney's recent offerings. Skeleton Crew in particular was excellent. I'm quite curious about the forthcoming season 2 of Obi-Wan. Didn't know they were making more.

 

[Gradine]

An rebel sympathetic engineer designs the tether tech with a glaring weakness he keeps hidden, but dies sneaking the plans out to a spy that happens to be his child who dies getting the plans to Holdo. Directed by JJ Abrams.

Abrams has to fired halfway through and replaced by the safest possible alternative. Directed by the Russo Brothers

 

[payn]

Abrams has to fired halfway through and replaced by the safest possible alternative. Directed by the Russo Brothers

Who then quit due to artistic differences and Justin Lin is brought in.

 

[Gradine]

I don't think that was intentional, but Johnson and Abrams have such different styles and artistic ideas and personalities that giving them different movies wasn't smart - they'd have been better off picking one director for all three movies, or at least making someone a sort of "showrunner" for all three movies (which they did not do). Abrams took stuff personally (very clear from interviews) that for Johnson is part of being an artist working on a project other people work on, which is why the third movie went in such a weird direction with a lot of characters (kind of funny Abrams did this and was so bitter, but also explains a lot about some of the tension behind the scenes with Lost and so on).

But the original plan was going to be a car crash of a different kind - Trevorrow is an objectively much worse director than either Abrams or Johnson (Johnson by far the most talented of the three as a director, love him or loathe him, but Abrams is at least solid - Trevorrow isn't even that), and holy hell anyone who thinks his movie would have been good should read his script treatment, or better yet, let Jenny Nicholson go through it for you:


Would it have been worse than TROS? Hmmmm... hard to say. Equally bad? Probably, just in different ways.

Trevorrow Ep IX would've definitely been worse than what we got, which wasn't great to begin with, but both would've been parsecs better than whatever Trank was planning to unleash on us.

 

[Gradine]

Who then quit due to artistic differences and Justin Lin is brought in.

Ngl, I would watch the s*** out of that

 

[Zaukrie]

How does Disney not have a massive SW series bible that everything goes from? It's unreal. Truly. Because those last three movies make it clear they don't.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I thought they learned their lessons about convoluted explanations for things in SW movies. In 20 years we will get "why the Holdo Maneuver worked" movie.

Star Wars is spending all its energy on "why 'Somehow, the Emperor returned!' is good, actually." Once that clean-up is finished, I assume they'll start moving through the rest of the sequel issues.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

How does Disney not have a massive SW series bible that everything goes from? It's unreal. Truly. Because those last three movies make it clear they don't.

They used to make a big deal of having an in-house lore expert (which even videogame companies have nowadays, so it ain't that impressive). It seems like their job is to mostly prevent anyone calling the music "jizz" again.

 

[payn]

Star Wars is spending all its energy on "why 'Somehow, the Emperor returned!' is good, actually." Once that clean-up is finished, I assume they'll start moving through the rest of the sequel issues.

haha, I asked once why Palp couldnt just be a force ghost and was told its jedi only thing. So, first I want that movie.