General star wars talk/discussion/complaining

[Gradine]

Are we actually going to see Rey do that? Are they plans to push the timeline past RoS?

There's a film coming down the pipe featuring Rey and a New Jedi Order that announced it had a new screenwriter like... a week or two ago, so as of right now yeah that's still happening. Simon Kinberg's also supposedly got a new trilogy in the works set after RoS and the scuttlebutt is will also include Rey in some capacity, but we know less about those at this point in time.

 

[chuckdee]

Sure but Disney was in charge. They could have put an end to that pretty quickly

With Abrams and Rian? Not without getting rid of them. They're pretty high money high profile so they weren't going to do anything to rein them in.

 

[chuckdee]

In Rise of Skywalker, there's a lightsaber battle between Rey on planet-side and Kylo in the capital ship, who keep accidentally projecting at each other and thus being able to fight.

Ah... Ok. I was thinking of the Luke vs Kylo Ren, which I really enjoyed.

 

[Gradine]

Ah... Ok. I was thinking of the Luke vs Kylo Ren, which I really enjoyed.

I mean, yeah, that was also really awesome.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah, Finn got done dirty, and John Boyega knows it.

I'd like to mention Hux, who gets a pretty pathetic story arc. He started off as a serious contender for second-tier BBEG in TFA, rivaling Ren as an equal in Snoke's service. He gives a fiery fascist speech about killing off the New Republic, and so on.

Then in TLJ he becomes a laughing stock when first Poe mocks him with the "call waiting" thing and then Snoke humiliates him in front of everyone. By the end of the movie, he is reduced to relaying Ren's orders.

Finally, in ROS, he becomes a mere bit player after that Pryde guy swoops in out of nowhere, leaving Hux with nothing to do but make a stupidly suicidal attempt at one-upping Ren.

His speech in TFA was so delicious lol. Yeah TFA was a bit repetitive vs ANH but it had some seeds of greatness and potential in it.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

There's a film coming down the pipe featuring Rey and a New Jedi Order that announced it had a new screenwriter like... a week or two ago

It gets a new writer every fortnight, so I'm not holding my breath. I think the issue is Disney are so terrified of the fans that they don't dare do anything interesting. And what writer wants to work under the condition of "don't write anything interesting"?

 

[Zardnaar]

It gets a new writer every fortnight, so I'm not holding my breath. I think the issue is Disney are so terrified of the fans that they don't dare do anything interesting. And what writer wants to work under the condition of "don't write anything interesting"?

They made the ST didn't they fan backlash wouldn't have mattered.

Disney goofed up and its kinda obvious to everyone now. Can't really blame the Dan's at this point. They're batting below 50% live action.

Burning g down the old EU annoyed people. I don't think that's a major problem by itself but they lost the institutional knowledge as well.

 

[delericho]

Burning g down the old EU annoyed people. I don't think that's a major problem by itself but they lost the institutional knowledge as well.

Burning down the old EU would have been fine had they replaced it with something better. Unfortunately, they've largely replaced it with a mess that seems to get its only good ideas by raiding the stuff they've decanonized, so, really, what was the point of that?

And doing endless shows that seem to be building up to the huge revelation that the Emperor survived feels like backfilling the story to justify possibly their worst decision ever - a whole lot of wasted effort for something best forgotten.

At this point I'm inclined to think that their best idea is to jump forward in time a significant distance (and ruling that all the existing characters are out of play), setting up a new status quo, and going from there.

 

[delericho]

It certainly didn't help that Disnsey had planned to make Leia a more central character in RoS only for Carrie to die unexpectedly. We can but hope that it would've resulted in a better, more coherent film had Carrie lived.

This is a big factor. The other is the massive backlash against TLJ, which I can't imagine they expected.

"The Rise of Skywalker" makes a lot more sense if you accept that they've been given the task of somehow cleaning up the big mess that they've been left. It's not great, to say the least, but they did the best they could with the hand they'd been dealt.

 

[GreyLord]

Burning down the old EU would have been fine had they replaced it with something better. Unfortunately, they've largely replaced it with a mess that seems to get its only good ideas by raiding the stuff they've decanonized, so, really, what was the point of that?

And doing endless shows that seem to be building up to the huge revelation that the Emperor survived feels like backfilling the story to justify possibly their worst decision ever - a whole lot of wasted effort for something best forgotten.

At this point I'm inclined to think that their best idea is to jump forward in time a significant distance (and ruling that all the existing characters are out of play), setting up a new status quo, and going from there.

I'd say exactly this.

If they had replaced it with something people loved (and normally, when you continue on a characters progression, rather than regressing most of them, people will love it a lot more) rather than what they did, I think people would have loved Star Wars even more than they had previously.

I'd probably just kill of the Canon they did, or revise it to something better that more people will latch onto, and then do a massive time jump (they should have done the massive time jump the first time, except they wanted the nostalgia of having the Original characters appear, but then squandered that opportunity by regressing those character's storylines and not even getting the original bunch together for one last story).