D&D (2024) Why are you still playing D&D?

[Micah Sweet]

New players did start 4e in droves by all accounts. But it was too radical for its time and Paizo was also offering a living system, full of new products, adventurers and great support so they lost the existing players.

5.0 isn’t going to receive support from WoTC any more, it’s 2024 all the way.

Pretty sure that's what 3pp is for.

 

[TheSword]

Pretty sure that's what 3pp is for.

Some is good. But a lot isn’t and small 3pp simply won’t fill the gap left by WoTCs 4-5 hardcover books a year. Who is producing a full length campaign, an adventure anthology, a rules supplement and a campaign setting every year? Nobody.

Aside from that ‘Official’ does matter! As much as some folks wished it didn’t in the hope of selling more product.

 

[Voadam]

I have the 24 PH and I am reading it straight through, I am up to the wizard class so not even half way there yet. I have no current plans to get the 24 DMG and MM, it is all supposed to be compatible with my 14 versions and I have a ton of 3rd party monster books I enjoy so if I adopt the 24 PHB stuff for my next campaign once I have gone through it (not a given, I have the 14 stuff in FG and I have not heard of any of my face to face people besides me having gotten the new PH), it will be a mixed 14/24 game.

Which should be no problem, I went through the 1e-2e transition with allowing 1e and 2e PH stuff and using my 1e DMG and monster books (eventually getting some 2e ones like the Ravenloft compendiums during the 2e era but not the core ones).

 

[Micah Sweet]

Some is good. But a lot isn’t and small 3pp simply won’t fill the gap left by WoTCs 4-5 hardcover books a year. Who is producing a full length campaign, an adventure anthology, a rules supplement and a campaign setting every year? Nobody.

Aside from that ‘Official’ does matter! As much as some folks wished it didn’t in the hope of selling more product.

You will not convince me on any of those points (IMO 3pp is at least as good as WotC, and official is irrelevant), but to each their own.

 

[Bomberooski]

Being very late to the TTRPG world D&D seems to have the most resources for getting INTO gaming. Between books, YouTube channels and stuff at the local game store it has the pieces available to welcome newer people into this hobby.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I have the 24 PH and I am reading it straight through, I am up to the wizard class so not even half way there yet. I have no current plans to get the 24 DMG and MM, it is all supposed to be compatible with my 14 versions and I have a ton of 3rd party monster books I enjoy so if I adopt the 24 PHB stuff for my next campaign once I have gone through it (not a given, I have the 14 stuff in FG and I have not heard of any of my face to face people besides me having gotten the new PH), it will be a mixed 14/24 game.

Which should be no problem, I went through the 1e-2e transition with allowing 1e and 2e PH stuff and using my 1e DMG and monster books (eventually getting some 2e ones like the Ravenloft compendiums during the 2e era but not the core ones).

1e/2e remains my preferred official D&D. Most product and best lore IMO.

 

[TheSword]

You will not convince me on any of those points (IMO 3pp is at least as good as WotC, and official is irrelevant), but to each their own.

Some is, some isn’t. If you think all 3pp are as good as WotC, you haven’t read enough 3pp.

You know and are really familiar with the game. If people aren’t familiar with the game then people don’t know that impact that 3pp will have on their game. A brand does matter because people trust there will largely be coherence within the brand, whether it matters to you or not is another question.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Some is, some isn’t. If you think all 3pp are as good as WotC, you haven’t read enough 3pp.

You know and are really familiar with the game. If people aren’t familiar with the game then people don’t know that impact that 3pp will have on their game. A brand does matter because people trust there will largely be coherence within the brand, whether it matters to you or not is another question.

People may trust that, but all it means is they're more likely to pay for it. That's an indicator of good marketing, not necessarily good design. And of course some 3pp is going to be poor quality. So is some WotC. Nothing I've seen tells me I should trust WotC's quality more than other publishers. That doesn't mean their work is bad, but it also doesn't mean we should make assumptions that it's good any more than we should do that for anything else.

 

[Clint_L]

At a certain point I'm pretty sure it will switch over. There's no reason to rush into a new edition but as people wrap up new campaigns and more importantly as newbies join we'll likely see a shift. I'm not surprised if there was no rush to embrace the new even if we did because the rules needed a bit of cleanup but in the long run there's not a lot of reason to stick to the old for a lot of people.

I agree, and point out that the whole point of the 2024 revision was for it to be compatible enough with the 2014 rules so that players and, especially, DMs, don't feel an immediate pressure to have to choose between them and thus create yet another edition schism. You can, for example, just buy the new MM and it works perfectly fine with your 2014 books, or run a 2014 adventure with the current PHB. I know, because I've done it. They all work together on DDB, even.

Although the new books have apparently sold like hotcakes, the main strategy was to maintain the game's inertia. I would say they have been successful, but it's early days. Could be wrong.

 

[MGibster]

I would have clicked preference, familiarity, and convenience if possible but I could only click 2 of 3. I clicked preference and convenience. I actually like D&D. When I want to play a dungeon crawler type game there's nothing that scratches that itch quite like D&D. It's also convenient because I already own the game, I know the rules, and I can easily find players interested.