D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

[TiQuinn]

Is this the same thing? Pure imagination?

You've answered your own question.

 

[Incenjucar]

I personally loved the gnome shorts. "I have a lair!" is something I've repeated enough that it's probably why I have lair mechanics in the works. I am also currently playing a gnome in Pathfinder Society games. Humor doesn't always land with everyone, but I never got the impression that the shorts were against anyone, just making light of the situation.

 

[billd91]

Especially considering that the lead D&D team is composed of those that played D&D in the TSR years. The idea that they were making fun of grognards is dumb.

I don't think the idea they were poking some fun at grognards is dumb. Rather, considering how often humor and blatantly making fun of critics came up back in the TSR days, particularly in publications like Dragon Magazine or in other parts of the industry like the Gigi D'Arn column in Different Worlds, the offended reaction is a little over the top.

Arguably, you might not want to make it seem like it's a direct participant in an active conversation. But a bit of intramural teasing in the gaming community is hardly rare.

 

[BrokenTwin]

Well, ok. You see how easily we shift between "Please show me evidence of WotC mocking or disparaging older fans" and "those people SHOULD be unwelcomed"?

Nobody's saying older fans should be made to feel unwelcome. All huskies are dogs, but most dogs aren't huskies.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Seriously dude, do you get angry every time someone makes fun of gnomes on this board? The sheer amount of classic settings that genocided them? Your finding things to get mad at for the sake of being mad.

Genociding a species in a setting and making fun of those who like them are, in fact, different things.

 

[Micah Sweet]

And it is fine if you are complicated.

But, if the complication is on your side of things, holding other people responsible for not threading the needle isn't particularly fair.

Which is why I explained my feelings.

 

[Micah Sweet]

You've answered your own question.

I don't understand this response.

 

[The Firebird]

Nobody's saying older fans should be made to feel unwelcome. All huskies are dogs, but most dogs aren't huskies.

If we're serious about that then we should do our best to make sure our statements condemning the huskies are clearly differentiated from our statements about dogs.

 

[TiQuinn]

I don't understand this response.

I’m okay with that.

 

[Remathilis]

Genociding a species in a setting and making fun of those who like them are, in fact, different things.

Again, if you watched the Tiefling and the Gnome video and felt insulted and mocked, that says more about you than it.