WotC Would you buy WotC products produced or enhanced with AI?

[mellored]

no it isn't, a calculator is not AI either

AI is a series of calculations. You could do it on a calculator.

It would take millions of years to manually type it in, but you could. Heck. If you had time to wait for black holes to evaporate you could do with pen and paper.

This isn't suddenly some new invention. We had AI detecting a single number back in the 50's. AI could write sentences and play chess in the 80's. Image correction and speech to text in the 2000's. And now it's fast enough to make whole pictures and write entire paragraphs. Even starting to make movies.

It's not new, just faster.

The line that people are getting anxious about is that AI is getting better than humans. It's not that AI can draw, it's that it can draw better than an artist.

Tiger pups are cute. But full grown ones are scary.

And there's no indication that AI is done growing.

 

[Azzy]

I don't believe that there's any ethical use of AI outside of corner cases. Using AI that replaces creatives is a big NO for me.

 

[Li Shenron]

That's how it goes.

First the publishers ask "Why do we still need creators?"

Then the customers ask "Why do we still need publishers?"

Then everybody asks why nobody is making nice stuff any more, and it's all just regurgitated slop, because human creativity has been completely removed from the process.

I hear you...

There are probably going to be similar problems everywhere, for example in music. It won't be difficult in the near future to dynamically create "on the fly" songs generated and performed by AI, given a prompt in the form of song's topic, genre, mood, sound etc. Then probably part of the customer base will be happy enough with that, after all there are plenty of people who really don't care how music is made, they just want to dance or something that lifts their mood or maybe they even just can't tolerate silence and need something to fill it: music as a commodity. But I am quite confident that there is another part of the customer base who does not see music as a commodity, and will still be looking for music made by someone who cares.

Perhaps, what will happen in many arts, is just that the traditional human-made art will stop being the mass market production that it has grown into since the 50s, but it won't go away completely. Not unlike artisanal biscuits not having disappeared despite 99% of the world biscuits production has been handled effectively by automation. But for sure it will be even harder than now for anyone to make it a profession.

 

[TiQuinn]

AI is a series of calculations. You could do it on a calculator.

It would take millions of years to manually type it in, but you could. Heck. If you had time to wait for black holes to evaporate you could do with pen and paper.

This isn't suddenly some new invention. We had AI detecting a single number back in the 50's. AI could write sentences and play chess in the 80's. Image correction and speech to text in the 2000's. And now it's fast enough to make whole pictures and write entire paragraphs. Even starting to make movies.

It's not new, just faster.

The line that people are getting anxious about is that AI is getting better than humans. It's not that AI can draw, it's that it can draw better than an artist.

Tiger pups are cute. But full grown ones are scary.

And there's no indication that AI is done growing.

And this is why AI as a general term for what’s happening now is next to useless.

 

[The Firebird]

I’ll note that for anyone that’s used AI at this stage, it often requires quite a bit of human supervision to produce what you actually want.

Aside from the ethical concerns, the main gripe with AI seems to be its quality--the art would have flaws, the text would miss details. I pretty much agree with that at the moment, so the OP idea of having untouched work wouldn't tempt me.

At some point it might. If the quality of the output is not discernable from that produced by a human, I'd bite.

And I don't have any issues with AI used as a tool to aid humans. I use it quite a bit for work, and for repeated, mindless tasks, where it's easy to check the output, I find it very useful.

 

[Morrus]

It's not that AI can draw, it's that it can draw better than an artist.

What does “better” mean in this context? More imaginative? More photo-realistic? More colours? Bigger? Smaller? More surreal? More valuable? More thought-provoking? More original?

 

[Parmandur]

Aside from the ethical concerns, the main gripe with AI seems to be its quality--the art would have flaws, the text would miss details. I pretty much agree with that at the moment, so the OP idea of having untouched work wouldn't tempt me.

At some point it might. If the quality of the output is not discernable from that produced by a human, I'd bite.

And I don't have any issues with AI used as a tool to aid humans. I use it quite a bit for work, and for repeated, mindless tasks, where it's easy to check the output, I find it very useful.

LLMs as a turboboosted search engine doesn't bother me too much ("Hey Google, hiw do I get an HTML page to do X?"), but the "aside from the ethical concerns: is a pretty huge aside ("aside from theassasination, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play???") ...and aside from ethics, the legal issues are huge. Major IP holders are set to turn FaceBook and OpenAI into money Piñatas soon, and for good reason.

 

[The Firebird]

I have no use for fast food regurgitate art, and a search engine that can be wrong is worse than what we had in the 90s. AI literally cannot produce anything I don't already have access to.

In my experience LLMs already outperform google at certain search tasks. Not like "give me the wikipedia article for X". But something like "I'm trying to remember an article from a back issue of dungeon magazine"? They are way better.

 

[Scribe]

People voting No Never are delusional, literally everything in the near future will be produced using at least some amount of AI. This is like the 90's when people thought the internet was some newfangled fad that would die out

Why?

Did we need AI to design, build, produce, create, literally anything in the history of our species? If not, why is it needed now?

 

[The Firebird]

LLMs as a turboboosted search engine doesn't bother me too much ("Hey Google, hiw do I get an HTML page to do X?"), but the "aside from the ethical concerns: is a pretty huge aside ("aside from theassasination, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play???") ...and aside from ethics, the legal issues are huge. Major IP holders are set to turn FaceBook and OpenAI into money Piñatas soon, and for good reason.

I think people mostly know where they stand on the ethics and are not going to change now. I wanted to pull out the quality concern, which seems orthogonal to ethics.