Spoilers Star Wars: Andor season 2

[Elodan]

What is it with Star Wars and tree houses?

I’m sure it’s a message that living in harmony with nature better than destroying it.

If you watch the extended canon a lot of Jedi temples are built using the natural features of the land. Whereas, on Coruscant which there is one tiny spot of natural terrain showing, the Jedi lost their way.

 

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[Zardnaar]

I’m sure it’s a message that living in harmony with nature better than destroying it.

If you watch the extended canon a lot of Jedi temples are built using the natural features of the land. Whereas, on Coruscant which there is one tiny spot of natural terrain showing, the Jedi lost their way.

Is that Canon Coruscant?

 

[Rabulias]

Is that Canon Coruscant?

It was in an episode of The Mandalorian I think?

 

[pukunui]

It was in an episode of The Mandalorian I think?

Yes, and it was in the Clone Wars before that. The tip of a mountain is all that remains of Coruscant’s original natural terrain. The rest of it has been flattened or buried under tons of metal.

Coruscant’s inspiration, Trantor, also has one single bit of natural terrain (the emperor’s palace gardens), but the main difference between the two worlds is that Trantor is that its inhabitants all live on the inside, whereas on Coruscant there’s the skyscraper-filled outer city as well as the interior “underworld” section.

Of course, Coruscant is meant to be entirely covered in city, but we only ever really see the parts around the Senate and Jedi temple. We never see what’s on the other side of the planet, for instance.

 

[Zardnaar]

It was in an episode of The Mandalorian I think?

Derp similar to legends but the mountain was bigger.

 

[Kaodi]

Finally caught up so I could look at this thread again!

I think Syril is kind of the anti-Kylo. Whereas Kylo did not really earn his redemption and got to die "nobly" Syril was perhaps on his way to earning it and instead died ignobly and unknown. I mean, there has to be some kind of message here. Why spend so much time on his character otherwise? Maybe something about keeping your eyes open and doing the right thing when it is too late even. I do not think Dedra is going to turn around. If anything Syril dying is going to make her go even more all in. Heck, maybe her fate is to be personally murdered by Vader for failing to stop the Rebels in the last three episodes.

 

[sevenbastard]

Why spend so much time on his character otherwise?

Because we all had a crush on his mom?

Would have been Interesting to know what his fate was if he didn't stumble on to Andor?

 

[Dire Bare]

Finally caught up so I could look at this thread again!

I think Syril is kind of the anti-Kylo. Whereas Kylo did not really earn his redemption and got to die "nobly" Syril was perhaps on his way to earning it and instead died ignobly and unknown. I mean, there has to be some kind of message here. Why spend so much time on his character otherwise? Maybe something about keeping your eyes open and doing the right thing when it is too late even. I do not think Dedra is going to turn around. If anything Syril dying is going to make her go even more all in. Heck, maybe her fate is to be personally murdered by Vader for failing to stop the Rebels in the last three episodes.

Both Syril and Dedra were strong imperial partisans . . . until the horror of the Ghorman Massacre.

I'm not sure if Syril was headed for redemption . . . maybe . . . but once he saw Andor, he lost control and found a target for his rage and horror.

Dedra, we'll have to wait and see, but she was also clearly struggling with what she was a part of, and Syril's rejection of her as a monster drove it home.

As much as I've disliked both characters up to this point, it was emotional watching them struggle through the events of that last episode.

Part of the point of the movie Rogue One and this prequel series Andor is to bring a little bit of "realism" to Star Wars, to show the banality of evil and war. We still have villains, but for the most part they are much more complex characters and just like IRL, sometimes they suffer and die without making an impact.

But thank god Krennic is still so much fun to hate!!!

 

[billd91]

Finally caught up so I could look at this thread again!

I think Syril is kind of the anti-Kylo. Whereas Kylo did not really earn his redemption and got to die "nobly" Syril was perhaps on his way to earning it and instead died ignobly and unknown. I mean, there has to be some kind of message here. Why spend so much time on his character otherwise? Maybe something about keeping your eyes open and doing the right thing when it is too late even. I do not think Dedra is going to turn around. If anything Syril dying is going to make her go even more all in. Heck, maybe her fate is to be personally murdered by Vader for failing to stop the Rebels in the last three episodes.

I think Syril helps show the continuum of cogs in the Imperial machine. There are the relatively straight-laced but rigid types like Syril. They're the Empire's internal patsies - they can be manipulated at will because they bought into the ideas of law and order that the Empire represents. Then you've got Dedra Meero - ambitious, sharp, manipulative, callous... at least to a point since it's clear that she was more shaken by the events on Ghorman than expected. She claws her way up the intelligence hierarchy but may have her limits. Then you've got her superiors like Partagaz and Krennic - completely hardened manipulators for whom genocide is a tool no different from a hammer or hydrospanner.