AD&D 1E What does this (d8, d6) dice notation mean in the DMG?

[Thomas Shey]

I've encountered a few gamers over the years who used a d10 paired with a d6 (for high/low) in place of a d20.

We did that back in the Very Dim Times because of the lack of D20's with separate numbers for 11-20, as you reference in the part I clipped. The habit probably stuck around for several years after that was no longer true.

 

[pawsplay]

We did that back in the Very Dim Times because of the lack of D20's with separate numbers for 11-20, as you reference in the part I clipped. The habit probably stuck around for several years after that was no longer true.

My first Runequest set had the d20 labeled 0-9, twice.

 

[Thomas Shey]

My first Runequest set had the d20 labeled 0-9, twice.

Yeah, that was pretty much the default early on.

 

[Mannahnin]

We did that back in the Very Dim Times because of the lack of D20's with separate numbers for 11-20, as you reference in the part I clipped. The habit probably stuck around for several years after that was no longer true.

I met a few folks at a convention who were still doing it in the 2000s.

 

[Mannahnin]

1d4+1d10 creates a heck of a flattened normal distribution. When do you suppose EGG thought it would see use?

Good question.

I've used a d8+d10 table a couple of times, for a bell curve with a flattened middle (9, 10, 11 all equally likely at 10% each, 8 and 12 8.75% each, etc.) The AD&D Monster Manual 2 introduced charts using this combo, and linked them to monster frequency as follows:

2-3 very rare
4 very rare/rare
5-6 rare
7-8 uncommon
9-13 common
14-15 uncommon
16-17 rare
18-19 very rare/rare
20 very rare

 

[Nikosandros]

So (d8, d6) means "d4 be damned!"

What was wrong with d20, reroll 17-20, I wonder?

Two reasons I can think of:

1) It's more baroque, as @Parmandur wrote above.
2) You don't waste time re-rolling.
3) An almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.

 

[Parmandur]

Two reasons I can think of:

1) It's more baroque, as @Parmandur wrote above.
2) You don't waste time re-rolling.
3) An almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.

Add a couple more possibilities you have a nice random table right there.

I think option 2 might be the for-realsies reason in this instance: re-rolls aren't thst common in AD&D to my knowledge, and represents roll schemes have their own Baroque quality compared to a statistical spread of a single roll.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Just add four more items to the table.