D&D General So… psionic powers are no longer purely mental?

[Artamo]

Or the glowing irises.

Or the hair…

 

[TwoSix]

Or we can understand that in D&D psionics, despite it's variety over the editions, consistently represented internal mental power that used no external sources or components*.

That's what it was. What is might be is still up for discussion.

The value of maintaining a "tradition" is not weighed particularly heavily, AFAIK, unless the surveys indicate otherwise.

 

[Maxperson]

That's what it was. What is might be is still up for discussion.

The value of maintaining a "tradition" is not weighed particularly heavily, AFAIK, unless the surveys indicate otherwise.

Yes, which is why I said "over the editions" and "used" to indicate past tense. 5e hasn't established psionics, yet. That said, WotC will get huge blowback if they try to make it yet another V, S, M magic accessing the weave class. There's no great advantage for doing so, and they can get all of the balance in other ways that aren't hard to do.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I mean, magic itself is too varied to argue it's nuances about except to narrow it down to a source. The biggest complaint about D&D is that it doesn't match the magic of X fiction (Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Wheel of Time). No psionics system is going to match what X fiction does any better.

We have an idea what D&D magic is, and unlike psionics it’s remained somewhat consistent across editions - and we can even point at a specific literary source.

And we have thousands of years of tradition and folklore that we can draw inspiration from for magic, whereas psionics was invented about 60 years ago.

 

[Corinnguard]

That said, WotC will get huge blowback if they try to make it yet another V, S, M magic accessing the weave class.

Did Paizo receive any blowback when they made psionics into another form of magic for Pathfinder? curious

 

[Paul Farquhar]

accessing the weave

I don’t think the psionics has made any mention of the weave as yet. Accessing the far realms perhaps.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Did Paizo receive any blowback when they made psionics into another form of magic for Pathfinder? curious

There are always a few, even though what Paizo did was really good.

It’s always the same old people who complain though. The majority of 5e players are too young to have any preconceptions - although they might ask what the point is.

 

[TwoSix]

Did Paizo receive any blowback when they made psionics into another form of magic for Pathfinder? curious

There's always a few people who think their personal headcanon is the only possible way to interpret something.

 

[Maxperson]

Did Paizo receive any blowback when they made psionics into another form of magic for Pathfinder? curious

I don't know. Paizo isn't D&D(the brand) and so wasn't tied to the same things D&D will be tied to. I never played Pathfinder or paid attention to Paizo.

 

[Corinnguard]

I don't know. Paizo isn't D&D(the brand) and so wasn't tied to the same things D&D will be tied to. I never played Pathfinder or paid attention to Paizo.

Paizo built PF1 off of 3.5e's chassis and has been likened by some as 3.75e D&D. PF2 otoh is a different story and has become its' own RPG.