DLSS 5 will be the worst thing to EVER happen to video games

[trappedslider]

The teens are the ones who’ll have to live in the AI-cooked (in both senses of the term) world which we leave them, so perhaps their concern is justified. Certainly none of the posters on this board are likely to have to deal with the long-term consequences of an immensely heat-generating technology that produces nothing of any significant value, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore them entirely.

Here are the poll results, it's out of fear that the respondents wouldn't have existed without the current timeline along with the current dislike on generative AI.

So for some people any butterfly effects might be worse than generative AI.

 

[Cergorach]

The problem is, it’s going to turn all the potatoes into princesses by sticking some googly eyes and lipstick on them.

That's a good point. I haven't seen enough of a complete cRPG yet to judge is that is true or not, but I could see that happening. On the other hand how is that different from most of the other visual media? In movies and TV series the average actor is very good looking, makeup and after effects improve that even further. I have no issue watching a Disney princess movie, I know the source material is far more grim than that. And if DLSS5 starts to annoy, I can always turn it off.

As for the 'original artist's intentions', that would mean no book could ever be made into a movie, no movie could ever be made into a computer game... How Paul Atreides is described in the books by Frank Herbert is not the same vision in all the movies, TV series and computer games, but I hear very little about 'original artist's intentions' from those corners...

As for graphics overall, sure I like nice graphics, I think DLSS5 makes things look prettier from what they've shown. But we have an old saying "Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is and remains an ugly thing.". Pretty graphics do not make a good game, and I can still enjoy a game with 'bad' graphics. I enjoyed the Neverwinter Nights (2002) with it's 3D graphics, I started playing computer games like Pac-Man and Asteroids on the Atari 2600... Some even started with Pong on the Magnavox Odyssey... We played make belief as kids, we didn't look like what we were playing, but we still played as if. Using our fingers as guns, branches as swords, and our BMX bikes as cars...

 

[Aeson]

The teens are the ones who’ll have to live in the AI-cooked (in both senses of the term) world which we leave them, so perhaps their concern is justified. Certainly none of the posters on this board are likely to have to deal with the long-term consequences of an immensely heat-generating technology that produces nothing of any significant value, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore them entirely.

That's assuming the technology never improves and becomes more efficient. As has been pointed out in the past, I'm typing this out on a computer in the palm of my hand. Computers once filled large rooms. They become smaller and more efficient in time.

What takes an entire warehouse now will take half of a warehouse in ten years. What takes half a warehouse will take a quarter of that in twenty years.

Similar arguments were made about EVs. They use more electricity, which will cause more power being used, thus more pollution. These things can be offset by changes in other areas. Yes, AI might lead to fewer jobs, but those work places might not create as much pollution. Fewer cars on the road going to those jobs. It's not a perfect example, I understand that. I just hope it gets the point across.

We don't know what the future holds. Those that attempt to predict the future have terrible track records. 1984, Brave New World, Idiocracy are not predictions no matter how much our world seems to echo them. We could just as easily be heading for Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future as we are George Orwell's.

 

[Aeson]

Here are the poll results, it's out of fear that the respondents wouldn't have existed without the current timeline along with the current dislike on generative AI.
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So for some people any butterfly effects might be worse than generative AI.

Recency bias? I get COVID was pretty recent compared to the other things, but to a teen, that's a hundred years ago. What was a hundred years ago might as well be hundreds of years ago. AI is now. AI is the future. I wonder if the poll asked about different events if the answers would be the same.

If you could prevent one of these things?
Invention of generative AI
Mass deportation
COVID-27
WW III

 

[Pale Violet Light]

Here are the poll results, it's out of fear that the respondents wouldn't have existed without the current timeline along with the current dislike on generative AI.

That’s hilarious. Probably means the results should be taken with a grain of salt though.

 

[Cergorach]

What takes an entire warehouse now will take half of a warehouse in ten years. What takes half a warehouse will take a quarter of that in twenty years.

I know you took a random number, but it's going far faster then that. Just looking at consumer hardware (4090 => 5090) LLM performance improved by 25%-50% in 2.25 years, on the business side it improved by 100% in 1.25 years. That's just the hardware side, huge improvements are also there on the software side.

The issue currently is that the extra capacity and efficiency improvements are not used to make things smaller, they are used to make things 'better', as we've not yet reached the threshold like we have with computers, laptops, smartphones and tablets of 'good enough for most users'. Only after we've hit that threshold will things start to shrink. And no one knows when that's going to happen, it could be in the next couple of years, it could take a couple of decades. And other factors might impact that development as well, things like social acceptance, laws, hitting technical or practical walls, etc.

 

[trappedslider]

Recency bias? I get COVID was pretty recent compared to the other things, but to a teen, that's a hundred years ago. What was a hundred years ago might as well be hundreds of years ago. AI is now. AI is the future. I wonder if the poll asked about different events if the answers would be the same.

If you could prevent one of these things?
Invention of generative AI
Mass deportation
COVID-27
WW III

That’s hilarious. Probably means the results should be taken with a grain of salt though.

i mean it's teens, who are growing up in the bubble of generative AI is bad I bet if you polled teens in a high school, you'd get a different outcome.

 

[Retros_x]

The image on the right is obviously superior, in terms of looking more "realistic", than the image on the left.

The right also throws out the artistic intent and design. For pure realistic games this might be cool, but I would be pissed if I would be an art designer or character designer for a video game company.

 

[Horwath]

The right also throws out the artistic intent and design. For pure realistic games this might be cool, but I would be pissed if I would be an art designer or character designer for a video game company.

I'm sure that blacksmithing assistants were also pissed when power hammers came out on market.

 

[briggart]

Wrong. The one on the left looks like a real person, and the one on the right looks like an Instagram filter.

To me, the one on the left looks very flat, the one on the right looks it was lit by somebody who understands how to properly use light to shape a subject (and maybe with some makeup applied to the model).

I don't have the slightest idea what game this is, so I cannot say if the new rendition fits how the character was originally presented, but from an image point of view I don't see anything different than what photographers and cinematographers normally do when shooting a scene.