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  1. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Well, sure… if you change the definition of cooking to fit your metaphor, then sure, it’ll fit. It’ll just no longer mean what it always has. I feel like someone dosed me with some particularly strong acid.
  2. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    This makes no sense. The rules of soccer dictate the size of the field and the placement of the lines for the goalie box and the mid-field and so on. All of it is per the rules. Here’s your initial post with this cooking metaphor. “Prep is play, too” is what I disagree with. This is a...
  3. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Here you go. The first one was a post in which I’d also quoted you… you responded only to the part addressed to you which was about the clumsiness of the cooking analogy. These are about comparing play of a game with prep for play of a game and then using elements of a game for another...
  4. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Oh I meant the comparisons to other forms of play rather than this strained cooking metaphor.
  5. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Yeah, this is why I said most of the time. And what about the rest of my post? No thoughts about any of that?
  6. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    No one is arguing that the hobby is not being engaged in some way. It’s about defining any and all engagement as “play”. Which seems to obfuscate more than anything. Like, if I said I saw Stephen Hawking play baseball one time, I’d expect some confusion. If I clarified by saying “oh, well…...
  7. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    I mean, see my previous comments. I’ve already addressed this with a number of comparisons of my own. Notably, mine used more relevant points of comparison in the form of games. Rather than this clumsy cooking analogy that doesn’t really hold up at all because you’ve failed to make the obvious...
  8. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Nah.
  9. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    It is. But at this point, this was largely how I’d always run a campaign. And I’d never really had any issues. By this point, we were all adults and so leisure time wasn’t as abundant as when we were kids. I get that. It’s not really a concern for my longstanding play group because we’re all...
  10. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Yeah, I get that. I did some prep before full buy-in, but the bulk was after the players all confirmed they were down. Because it’s a friend group, we try not to exclude anyone. Another lesson… sometimes, it’s okay to just accept a specific game or campaign may not fit a certain player, and...
  11. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    No. To the hobby. If people didn’t actually play these things, no one would produce them.
  12. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Because that's what RPGs are... people playing around a table (physical or virtual). People engaging with RPGs in ways that don't consider how things go at the table, while perfectly fine, are of less importance. Play is paramount in importance. Just like all the examples that have been...
  13. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    Yes, I get that, and it’s fine. That doesn’t change the fact that play is the purpose of the books in the same way that cooking is the purpose of cookbooks even if there are people who just enjoy collecting or reading cookbooks but never use them to cook. There are such people around… and...
  14. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    To RPGs. Role-Playing Games. If you’re not playing, then there is no game. One may be engaging in the hobby in some way, and that way may be totally satisfying to the person. I’m not arguing about preferences here. Yes. Like me setting up the goals for my soccer team. Engaging with soccer...
  15. hawkeyefan

    Play Is Paramount: Discuss

    No… again, you can enjoy them by reading them and that’s great. But that doesn’t change that they were written for play. I mean, there could be someone out there entertained by boardgame instructions or by reading the Official Baseball Rules… and that’s perfectly fine. But their enjoyment...
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