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Is the cook a quantum if the GM decides that’s where she is? She’s never actually in the kitchen until the GM tells the player she is. Many of the folks who advocate for heavy prep said that they, at times, still have to come up with material on the fly. So what if the GM decides that, based...

My goal is not to bash on anything. It's to look at what D&D does, and what it has done traditionally, and to see where/how it may change. D&D is not beyond critique. Citing a criticism of the design is not "bashing on" anything. This thread is about discussion of how D&D and its fans may be...

Absolutely! I played in a 2d20 game of Star Trek Adventures for a bit. I'm not a big Trek fan, so I wasn't crazy about the game... but I did like the way it handled initiative. Essentially, it grants initiative to the PC side of the conflict, and then they can select who of their characters...

The comment I responded to wasn't about causation. It was about the lockpicking attempt having "nothing to do with the cook". Here is the comment: I don't see how when picking a lock, being discovered by someone who may be on the other side has "nothing to do" with picking the lock. Of course...

I don't think that @pemerton is using a different definition of fail forward. I think that it can be used in a variety of ways, and you're not really getting it. As the bolded bit above shows. You've been told several times that's not how it works. The complication or the consequence used in...

Because no one is challenging the preference. Please seethe bolded below. This is what’s getting push back. He’s not just stating a preference. It’s a description of a GMing method that he admits to not being familiar with that conflicts with how those familiar with it would describe it. It...

So there are a few ways to look at this. First, have all those factors actually been set already? The weather and the location of people within the location and all that? In some games... even some games of D&D... that very likely may not be the case. Second, even if all those factors have...

Stop acting like you meant “like we do” to mean something I’d never have claimed.

Who says it often doesn't happen? Have you been on many overland expeditions? I haven't. My experience with them, such as it is, comes mostly from fiction. And in fiction, when people travel great distances by foot or horse or wagon, they tend to hunt and forage along the way. No. We're...

No protagonists? Do you just mean characters? So a cook is very likely to be found in a kitchen, right? But the cook will not spend their entire day there. The cook needs to sleep and use the privy and maybe go down to the stables and chat with the farrier. Possibly something else entirely...

Because why not? The characters are traveling. We should assume all sorts of things they do while traveling. Foraging and hunting would be logical things to expect. No, pretending is an acknowledgment of the similarity to the two things, versus timing which is the only difference. I never...

I didn’t say anything about it being bad play. Do you really not see my point?

Yes! You are saying you’d rather spend time on the herb gathering on the off-chance that something interesting happens. I’m saying I’d skip past that to something that I’m certain the players will find interesting! And if it turns out someone would have wanted to try and gather herbs while...

I accept that you have different preferences. I don’t accept your description of mine. I mean, I expect that when you think someone’s not accurately describing methods that you might enjoy, you might say something about it. It’s a roll to determine why you’re climbing the wall? What? I...

But it was said we only roll if there are stakes. What are the stakes? What does it mean to unsuccessfully climb a wall? But not something bad that doesn’t fit the situation. Good grief.

I don’t think that’s in any way what anyone was advocating for. I think you’ve misunderstood quite a bit.

Extra? I would always assume foraging over a long journey. Hunting, gathering what can be found, and so on. I mean, they make camp, right? They probably light a fire. Is that extra? It’s not a red herring. What you do and what I do is we pretend. If there’s some kind of meaningful reason not...

Then I’m not following at all why you have an issue with what we’re talking about. If there is a predefined time pressure… it could be your friend in danger or anything else… then why would a consequence of a failed roll being related to the time pressure seem unconnected to you?

I suppose I’m not quite sure what that means. The player asks if their character can find herbs, and then maybe a roll happens to see, right? What more is there to “the way”? Again, I don’t think it’s retconning. It’s something unestablished that then becomes established. Do you consider...

How does this jibe with the below? This is precisely my point. If there are no stakes… no time pressure, no chance of damage, etc… then why roll? I’m proceeding with the idea that if we are making a roll, it’s because something’s at stake. The climb matters in some way. If that’s the case...