Any other edition and it would have just been the fighter and the mugger standing there trading blows. You could use the scenery or try another action like in 3e or previous editions. 4E gave out more options - it didn't take any away - and a boring fight is going to be a boring fight.
The question wasn't asked, but sunshadow21 brought in Paizo as a comparison in post #60 (D'Karr answered better than I could) I felt there was unfair bias against WOTC in his post when Paizo is essentially doing the same thing.
When you look at the latest errata document (a whopping 140 pages)...
You're right, I should have checked the Paizo website. My post was in response to Sunshadow21's post (I guess I forgot to quote it) and contained no intention of snark whatsoever.
What I don't understand is why WOTC is getting slammed for 'large errata' when Paizo are doing the same thing, in...
Are the changes to problematic rules in Pathfinder material made in later print runs or future splat books? Either way it's asking for the player to pay more money rather than download a free (but poorly presented) pdf. It kind of reminds me of running with 1st and 2nd Edition DMs with binders...
Errata is fine. Look at past options: writing in to Sage Advice for clarification and waiting for Dragon to come out, re-releasing 3.0 as 3.5 over a few fixes, or providing broken material to sidestep issues (2Es Player's Option). Errata is the lesser of all evils.
4E did go off the rails in regards to previous edition lore, but to me it was something that had to be done. Plus a lot of the material in previous editions could be contradictory or murky eg. What was Vecna's mentor? Is it called Beastlands or Happy Hunting Grounds? Where is Tharizdun currently...
I disagree on this point - Draegloths are hideous, sterile (not entirely sure - think it is mentioned in the 3.0 FR book, only have Drow of the Underdark on hand ATM) and among the highest ranking members of a house. Also, a yochlol's natural form is terrifying. Consistency isn't really there...
I've been looking over the Pathfinder SRD over the past week, and I'm beginning to wonder why feats (more specifically martial feats) can't be changed at the end of the day/adventure. If martial feats were treated the same way as dailies/Vancian slots would it be particularly game breaking...
What about just using the Backgrounds? Drop the Themes, they give the wizard the at will powers, and the fighter the 'damage on a miss' reaper power but each of the backgrounds looks like something out of WHFRP or the 2E non-weapon proficiency system. It actually looks pretty old school and...
When the wizard knows why it's because he's either broken the 4th wall or is using a magic system that doesn't incorporate the vancian system.
I want to quote this because it shows that in the game we are all willing to suspend disbelief on some mechanics that don't make sense while arguing...
I wanted to address this first. I apologize if I offended you, Rogue Agent, or anyone who holds to this side of the discussion. It was not my intention to offend anyone, and please believe me when I say that I look over my posts several times before submitting them to remove anything that I...
Why do people keep saying these things when caster dailies are just as dissociated as fighter dailies? The only answers that have been given are "It's magic" or "It's how it has always been"
Edit: I've never been convinced by the essays on dissociated mechanics at the Alexandrian, especially...
I've read the playtest a few times over now, and I understand the fighter presented is the "basic" fighter, I also posted my thoughts comparing the "basic" fighter throughout the editions for comparison in the playtest fighter thread
The playtest fighter was always going to be controversial, and...
A grid affects the presence of regaining hp and fighter dailies vs. regaining spells?
Is this all the designers needed to do? remove the grid and you're happy?
My point still stands, why do we give melee classes the short end of the stick?
How dare you sir?!? Infringe on my gaming style! Calling it "badwrongfun", you are ruining my ...
I can't go on, my sarcasm fuse has blown. Shidaku, you are right
I made this thread because I see people arguing against players regaining all hp after a long rest (important for melee characters)...