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The. The sorcerer needs better features for those instead of a huge chunk from wizard. It should be explicit about what it's trading away for it

That is an obvious nail through the very idea that sorcerer is limited by only having most of the wizard spell list rather than all of it. It very much sounds like more of the same with extra steps.

Yea but how do you make room for "monster powers" of noteworthy impact when starting out with a chassis containing a spell list similar to the current Sorcerer spell list given that said list is basically all of the top shelf wizard spells? Even if it's meaningfully limited by the willpower...

See that's the problem with sorcerer & how it got to it's current state of "wizard but hot". There's always an effort to talk up what it should have & how coolThing X & Y needs to ring this & that bell but all of that falls under the "but hot" and doesn't fit as long as it's some kind of...

"a scion list", My question was what the boundaries of those 5 spells were but you didn't clarify if the five spells you listed were the whole list or if "a scion list"is additive to what is basically the wizard list like

Are you suggesting that bold bit is the class spell list with "powers" being the bulk of the class's focus & power budget or are you suggesting the same matching full caster slot gains/progression choose six spells from almost much the entire wizard spell list plus get these for free? Having so...

ahem... It's more complicated that & you seem to be fighting for stagnant continuation of a wizard subclass as a full class with subclasses of its own. In quite a few of my posts I've mentioned how the sorcerer needs to carve a path of its own & stop relying on being "wizard but hot" in order...

No. I rejected it, there is a difference. Wotc overdid it giving stuff from another class's core strength and after doing so didn't leave enough room in the power budget for sorcerer to stand on its own merits.

If that were true then sorcerer wouldn't need to steal 90%+ of its spell list before adding extras and would set off on its own path. It's a situation like if barbarian got heavy armor second wind action surge rage a third attack at 11 and justified it by only having most of the battle master...

I might have overlooked it, but I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to have come up given the number of times it's been suggested that sorcerer be con based or that they gain notable monster abilities and such that would presumably contribute significantly to the class's power budget. There is...

Pyromancer fire dragon sorcerer etc. you also keep approaching this as if raw percentage of possible monsters a gm could use is equally as relevant as monsters commonly seen actually used in play, that's a bizarre bit of logic. The trouble with how you conceded is that you also did it in a way...

I think Crawford contradicted this in one of the onednd UA videos where he stopped gushing about the sorcerer long enough to admit that the wizard's theme was pretty much spell list the class. If you have a class that is spell list the class you can't also have fluff & features the class...

Not really. I stopped the quote there but it goes on for a couple pages about tangential things to consider. The 2e dmg really was a very different beast, a good bit of it still applies even today. There are plenty of areas where it talks about buying components for crafting. At some...

What difference does that make? The lore doesn't matter if the mechanics are using"wizard but x" instead and wotc is not willing to build a class with mechanics matching that lore. Until WotC is willing to build sorcerer mechanically for that lore instead of building a wizard subclass into a...