I think minotaur's are the mystery race

Aust Diamondew · Nov 23, 2007

Gundark said:
I've seen some realistic Minotaurs...I would argue that Tauren were supposed to be cartoony to begin with.

Warcraft is cartoony therefore tauren are cartoony.

That said I haven't been terribly impressed by most D&D illustrations with minotaurs.

Ranger REG · Nov 23, 2007

Darn. I was so rooting for Gelatinous Cube.

Klaus · Nov 23, 2007

Gundark said:
I've seen some realistic Minotaurs...I would argue that Tauren were supposed to be cartoony to begin with.

Oh, I've seen realistic minotaurs myself. Examples include:

Keith Parkinson's cover to Taladas: The Minotaurs

Michael Kormack's portrayal of the minotaur Shibata in Ptolus: City by the Spire is also awesome.

HeavenShallBurn · Nov 23, 2007

Aust Diamondew said:
That said I haven't been terribly impressed by most D&D illustrations with minotaurs.

For the most part neither have I but I think that they're tapping a pool of artists that don't necessarily have the right experience. There are quite a few races that are essentially anthromorphs and this requires something different from either pure humanoids ala elves/humans/dwarves OR pure beasts. For the minotaurs/gnolls/yaun-ti/lizardfolk/etc that are really anthropomorphic races they should find some good artists that have a reputation for well drawn life-like anthromorphs and commission them to do the work.

EDIT: some of the art has been good just not much. This one is from Dragonlance and is quite good.

Roman · Nov 23, 2007

Although I think this is still only razor-thin evidence, I want to believe. Minotaurs are a race I would like to see in the game as core far more than many alternatives floating on the forums.

Reaper Steve · Nov 23, 2007

More fire to the speculation: a Minotaur is on one of the three Dungeons of Dread booster covers.
Edit: although considering the minis, I now doubt WotC will make a large creature into a PC race. Wouldn't be able to make us enough PC figures.

Rechan · Nov 24, 2007

HeavenShallBurn said:
For the minotaurs/gnolls/yaun-ti/lizardfolk/etc that are really anthropomorphic races they should find some good artists that have a reputation for well drawn life-like anthromorphs and commission them to do the work.

Furry Artists in your D&D. MADNESS.

Cam Banks · Nov 24, 2007

You think minotaur's what are the mystery race?

All pedantry aside, we have a long-standing tradition of minotaur PCs in Dragonlance that predates all things Tauren. MWP's recent release, Races of Ansalon, has an entire chapter on them, and we have awesome Jason Engle art, too.

Cheers,
Cam

megamania · Nov 24, 2007

I don't see them as PCs but perhaps as the next reoccuring villian. They may try to make them the next Kobold.

Minotaurs-
setting is a dungeon check

In your face fighter check

Has magical abilities check

Cinematic appearance check

Besides... I don't ever see a Minotaur being a level 0 PC class

Klaus · Nov 24, 2007

Cam Banks said:
You think minotaur's what are the mystery race?

All pedantry aside, we have a long-standing tradition of minotaur PCs in Dragonlance that predates all things Tauren. MWP's recent release, Races of Ansalon, has an entire chapter on them, and we have awesome Jason Engle art, too.

Cheers,
Cam

Hey, one of my PCs in 2e was an albino minotaur cleric of the death god riding a black bull in full plate barding, thanks to Taladas: The Minotaurs.

IMNSHO, when including anthropomorphic races in a setting, you need artists who can accurately portray the animal in question. That makes them much more alien and much less "furry".

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