Favorite Tired ENWorld/D&D Argument?

Henry said:

And one of my favorite terms:

"Wizards of the Cost," because Ryan Dancey said it first, totally by accident, at a time when people were lamenting that TSR was gone and people couldn't use T$R any more, and WotC had no S 's .

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Why not use Wot¢?

orbitalfreak said:

Why not use Wot¢?

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Cents instead of dollars. It makes it seem less insidious and more acceptable somehow.

Baraendur said:

Hmm, I hope I'm not a usual suspect. I would never feed a troll.

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Of course you wouldn't, just as you wouldn't ever start a meta thread about trolls.

I'm partial to Lizards on the Toast for WotC...

As for using $, it's still possible, actually: Wizard$ ¤f th€ ¢¤ast ? If there was a Y and a L in addition, in this name, I could have put the pound and yen signs as wells.

I hate the Dungeon/Polyhedron threads that come up every time there's a new issue of the mag. Looks like we're goign to see it monthly now..

Krug said:

I hate the Dungeon/Polyhedron threads that come up every time there's a new issue of the mag. Looks like we're goign to see it monthly now..

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or the Fantasy Fiction doesn't belong in a Fantasy Gaming magazine threads. People act like this is a life or death situation instead of a minor annoyance.

jdavis said:

or the Fantasy Fiction doesn't belong in a Fantasy Gaming magazine threads. People act like this is a life or death situation instead of a minor annoyance.

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I agree, it is a minor annoyance. On one hand its a good thing that people do get so worked up about it because it means that they're actually buying the magazines. On the other hand its extremely annoying that the ultra conservative bunch can't be flexible enough to allow the rest of us to simply enjoy the parts of the magazines that we do. Oh well, I'm not going to drag the argument into this thread as well.

Another contender that doesn't appear above:

Why is greyhawk the default world when everything they publish is for the Forgotten Realms

I'm just glad the bless weapon DR debate finally has a conclusion in print.

Other debates that are tiresom (these are REAL classics):

WW+Cleave

TWF working with thrown weapons

invis+full attack

sneak attack doing too much damage

armor should provide DR

STR mod shouldn't provide bonus on attack rolls

orcs got the shaft

haste is too powerful

harm is too powerful

refocus action being useful

I'm sure I could come up with others, but I'm tired of thinking.

--Drone Spikey

Although some of the ones I'll mention could be subsumed under the "it isn't realistic" banner, they get enough individual attention to rate mentioning on their own:

* hit points don't make sense!
* levels don't make sense!
* the next edition of D&D needs to do away with all the sacred cows!

My answer for all of these is the same, and is simple: Play another game. It would be like me demanding that Pendragon stop focusing on knights or get rid of the Traits and Passions, or inisisting that Ars Magica needs to be more low-magic. There are plenty of other RPGs that fit the bill of what you're looking for.

Other arguments that I'd like to see go away:

* this game is better than that one! Whether it's old schoolers lamenting d20, or everyone else lambasting HackMaster, it's a futile argument - it's all subjective. If you don't like something, then don't play it. Loudly proclaiming how one would like to see this or that game "go away" is stupid. Just because I don't like something doesn't mean it has to be destroyed, or that anyone who likes it is stupid or deficient.

* Too many options in 3e! Huh? It is easy enough for a DM to limit what goes in his game from even the core rules. Why do away with options that others like because one can't control one's game?

* Mercurial swords - while it hasn't been discussed lately, I'm still surprised by how much consternation this subject caused.