D&D (2024) Comeliness and Representation in Recent DnD Art


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ezo

I cast invisibility
Then, job done and dusted no? We have representation of heroes that are outside the generally accepted "beauty" standard. It's there in the hobby already. We could probably use some more of it as well.
Yep. FWIW, I love her as an actress. But I see a lot of shows/ movie with people I would not consider "beautiful". However, most of them are so charismatic it's crazy! Michelle has tons of charisma, IMO. Danny DeVito is one of my favorite actors, but as he is fairly short and somewhat overweight, most people wouldn't consider him "beautiful".

I've never really noticed it before, but "comeliness" and "homeliness" are only one letter apart....

Johnathan
And those letters aren't that far apart, either. ;)
 


ezo

I cast invisibility
1. I don't look like Conan the Barbarian.
2. My Barbarian characters do.
3. I wish I did.

There's zero issue with wanting the art to reflect our fantasy ideals.
It is very much opposites most of the time:

1. Having art that is representative of the people who play.
2. Having art that is representative of what people want their PCs to look like.

Unless you want your PC to look like you, not simply represent you, the two don't really meet well IME.

Of course, both types can be present in the game.
 



MGibster

Legend
There's zero issue with wanting the art to reflect our fantasy ideals.
I don't think many people would disagree, but what they're asking for is for a wider variety of body types rather than asking to have ideals removed. In 2016, Blizzard introduced Zarya (pictured below). Zarya is a beefy gal with the physique of a weight lifter which is in contrast to the typical body type for female characters. A lot of people belive Zarya was introduced because Blizzard was taking some criticism for the way women characters in Overwatch looked.

Zarya.JPG


Here's a classic work of art that appeared in AD&D in the past. I'm not sure any of them look like the ideal version of a fantasy adventurer. Maybe the elf woman?

AD&D.JPG
 


ezo

I cast invisibility
Here's a classic work of art that appeared in AD&D in the past. I'm not sure any of them look like the ideal version of a fantasy adventurer. Maybe the elf woman?
Actually, I think they pretty much all do.

Female elf with bow (could be a thief or ranger?)
Male human cleric (haughty) with warhammer
Big burly male human fighter in mail
Older male human wizard in red robe with staff
Female fighter (maybe paladin?) in combat-damaged clothing and armor

Definitely the more "gritty" art style more prominent in the 80s and early 90s.
 

It's hard not to by cynical. However, facts on the ground are that all art in games are part of how they are sold. Attractive images are just that: They attract us. Should images be more diverse? Yes. But I won't hold my breath because publishers want to sell their products. It's akin to advertising. Part of how diversity has increased in common images in advertising is that the standards of beauty have generally expanded from frankly racist/ageist/ableist ect/all standards in even the last generation or two.
 

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