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Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties

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Goodman Games has issued another statement regarding the situation surrounding its upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunder.

Goodman Games CEO Joseph Goodman opened by saying "I was personally very affected by the comments because many of the people I know and love are in the groups that were heavily affected so I don't agree with the bigotry, I don't agree with the transphobia, I don't agree with the homophobia, I don't agree with the racism, I don't agree with any of it and I don't want to be associated with it and I don't want any money from Goodman Games to ever fund it or be perceived as funding it."

The short version of the statement --
  • The funds which would have gone to Judges Guild (which appears to be 10% of the Kickstarter) will be placed in an escrow account managed by Goodman Games. Those funds will be used to reimburse the backers of the earlier unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter.
  • The print run will be limited to ensure that once those backers have been reimbursed, no further revenue will be generated. This ensures that Judges Guild will not make a profit on this project.
  • If in some way the Kickstarter does exceed this threshold, Goodman Games is legally obligated to pay the excess royalties to Judges Guild. However, Goodman Games will match that excess with a charity donation.


Hi everyone,

Over the last day, I’ve been listening and reading the comments made in relation to our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project. Many of you have legitimate questions which we could have done a better job addressing initially. I realize that, in the initial rollout, I should have better explained how Goodman Games plans to publish this product in a way aligned with our company’s core values.

A common sentiment in many comments is: “How do you know the royalties will be used as intended?” As we shared yesterday, our agreement with Judges Guild is that royalties from “our” 5E+DCC City State of the Invincible Overlord will be used to repay unfulfilled backers from “their” Pathfinder CSIO Kickstarter from many years ago. There is legitimate concern from many commentators asking how we will ensure that would happen and ensuring that no funds are used for any other purpose. I and the entire Goodman Games team personally agree, as we do not want any funds from a Goodman Games project (this or any other) used for any causes or purposes related to the things that we are diametrically opposed to. (Including antisemitism, racism, homophobia, or other bigoted causes.) Concerns about funds being used for other purposes by other parties have been taken very seriously.

Therefore, Goodman Games will set up an escrow account specifically to receive any royalties due to Judges Guild. Effective immediately we will take over administering the refund process for the 2014 Judges Guild “Pathfinder edition” CSIO campaign. All royalties generated from “our” 5E+DCC CSIO campaign will be paid directly into this account. No royalties will be paid directly to Judges Guild.

We will limit the number of copies printed of “our” CSIO project to ensure royalties do not exceed the “full refund threshold” of the original Pathfinder CSIO campaign. In other words, if every single backer of the original campaign requests a refund, and we sell our entire print run, the full value of refunds will be granted and not a cent will be left over for additional royalty payments.

All reimbursements to backers of the previous Pathfinder campaign will come from this escrow account, managed by Goodman Games and overseen by a third party to ensure the funds are used as intended with no other parties being a part of this process.

For the record: Goodman Games has no access to the original Judges Guild Pathfinder Kickstarter campaign. We were not part of it. Operationally, legally, morally and financially we have no connection to it (other than this new development). We are unable to access backer records. Currently we would ask that backers of that original project email info@goodman-games.com and include a screen capture of their original pledge info, with backer number as well as full name and mailing address. (This email address may change as we set up the mechanisms to deal with this process.) We will begin to process refunds following the close and settlement of the crowdfunding campaign. To the extent that the funds accrued in the Judges Guild royalty escrow account cover some or all refund requests, we will administer an evenly prorated amount or a full refund.

The goal of this post is to answer any remaining questions, so here is an answer to one more that I anticipate. “What happens to any money left in the escrow account after the refunds are paid out?” The “Pathfinder edition” CSIO project generated $85k in revenue. For “our” project to generate $85k in royalty payments, it would have to break $850,000, which would be an extraordinary campaign. I think it’s highly unlikely that will happen.

However, it has been represented to me that Judges Guild has already refunded some of the original Pathfinder backers, so perhaps the total refund requests will be less than $85k. And perhaps “our” campaign will do better than expected, generating a larger-than-expected royalty payment. The combination of these two factors means it’s possible there will be money left in the escrow account.

We are legally obligated to pay those funds to Judges Guild. If that happens, Goodman Games will match that remaining payment with a donation to a charitable cause that supports our values of inclusivity. We have requested that Judges Guild make a similar donation.

We will also be limiting the print run of the campaign to manage the amount of royalties generated by this campaign so that there should be no excess. This campaign will be a “one-and-done” print run. PDF copies of the materials will only be sold during this crowdfunding campaign. There will be no additional printing. If the crowdfunding backers do not pledge for the entire print run, the remaining printed copies will be sold into distribution to generate funds for the remaining reimbursements of the “Pathfinder edition.”

I hope this addresses the concern around “where the money goes.” If there are other questions I can address, please send them our way and I’ll try to address those too. As we said yesterday when the events of 2020 occurred, we had several projects in the works related to the Judges Guild property. This is the last former Judges Guild product Goodman Games will be publishing that we do not own the rights to. We have rights to other products, which we do not intend to develop.

The original City State of the Invincible Overlord, as first designed by Bob Bledsaw Sr and Bill Owen in 1977, is an amazing piece of TTRPG history that deserves to be seen by 2025 gamers. Our hope that we can find way to share this brilliant creation with 5E and DCC gamers, help resolve outstanding refunds for the prior Kickstarter backers and do so without any connection to racist, homophobic, antisemitic and other bigotry exposed in 2020.

Thanks for your patience as we got everything pulled together behind the scenes and having the faith in Goodman Games as a company and myself to do the right thing.

Sincerely,
Joseph Goodman
 

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Sure. It was - in my memory of my experience, so double-qualifier there - a lot of stuff. It felt like a phone book arranged geographically, when I want a guide book - something that would tell me about the neighborhoods, give me some highlights, explain local ways that might be interesting and/or get me in trouble, and like that. I apparently never developed much skill at extracting implicit structure and story from flat data, and always needed a fair amount of hand-holding to spot and understand a lot of the connections between bits.

This on top of being an art snob, of course. I was into Roger Dean and Howard Pyle before getting into RPGs. I think Lisa Free may have been the first gaming artist to really make my breath catch and my eyes light up with delight. Judges Guild illustrations never did a thing for me. At least the flip pages on Tomb of Horrors were well-rendered and useful.
 

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As I said in the other thread.

This is a good statement / video by Joseph Goodman and he should be applauded for making it. What troubles me is that for some reason he didn't think to make this statement on Saturday, or Sunday, or Monday...etc. It was only after all the backlash that we got this statement. GG really should have lead with this. Maybe not the personal info, I completely get keeping your private life private, but the particulars of the license etc should have been day one info.

I'm glad that the project and funds will be set up in a way that means Judge's Guild will likely not see a dime. That's great. But no project, no matter how important you may think it is, is worth all this justifiable outrage.

I can't fault GG for stepping on a landmine of their own creation, I know I'm guilty of much the same time and again. I'm glad that Goodman disclosed some of his personal side of the story, it's always good to humanize people. As one of the others in the video said, "In the absence of information people make up fiction." Absolutely true.

But, in all honesty, this has really soured me to GG. The whole early version of their statement about "building bridges" is just so utterly tone deaf. You don't build bridges with Nazis. Full stop. So I'm going to pull back from DCC RPG and their other stuff for awhile. Maybe it's my cynicism, but I can't shake the feeling that there's another shoe that's going to drop. There's a lot of great games out there to play, so I'll be playing some of those for the foreseeable future.
wow, your empathy for human frailty and well, human-ness boggles me. How does it feel to breath your air??

from down here he did the right thing, he could've done better initially but he corrected course.

your loss, Im ordering for both DCC and 5e. This set will be historic and from what I see on e-bay you may regret your lofty ideals. LOL
 

lets be clear about something: I am a gay Latino armed forces veteran. I have medals, Im a psychiatric social worker by profession for the past 20 years. I deeply care about people. This is the kind of stuff that makes me lose hope in some of the elements of our hobby.


So like Joe on his video, this is who I unapologetically am.
 

lets be clear about something: I am a gay Latino armed forces veteran. I have medals, Im a psychiatric social worker by profession for the past 20 years. I deeply care about people. This is the kind of stuff that makes me lose hope in some of the elements of our hobby.


So like Joe on his video, this is who I unapologetically am.

So calling out others for shouting down bigotry and telling them it’s their loss for not buying the book is your answer?
 


This is a good statement / video by Joseph Goodman and he should be applauded for making it. What troubles me is that for some reason he didn't think to make this statement on Saturday, or Sunday, or Monday...etc. It was only after all the backlash that we got this statement. GG really should have lead with this.
agreed, but it sounds like they announced it prematurely / got carried away at their Con, otherwise they might have done so. It supposedly also is why it took them a while to respond. I for one won't hold it against them, if I can move on from WotC's OGL drama by them releasing it into the CC, I can do this here too. Still won't support CSIO, but then I never intended to anyway
 

I personally think that Goodman Games has made a good faith effort to try and balance offering a classic nostalgia product with acknowledging some of the problematic people inherent in that thing. People that are still "no way" are in their rights, and people that are "ok good" are in their rights.

The history of D&D is convoluted and problematic. I personally feel that we should make an effort to embrace all of our community, and if we can bring justice to the undeserved and otherwise unjustly represented. But I also think that we should consider the early and questionable inspiration as a starting point and stepping stone for our hobby.
 



<looks up> bugger... What got everyone growling? Is their a cliff notes version of this?

Or maybe I don't want to know?
Guy owns some cherished D&D properties from the 70s and 80s from his late dad's company. He posted some incredibly racist stuff on Facebook, such as referring to American news media as "Jewsmedia". RPG industry reacted with universal revulsion. Goodman Games, among many others, vowed to never work with him again. Last weekend, Goodman announced a new project involving said guy's property. Many people understandably upset. Goodman Games belatedly clarifies things, to the satisfaction of some but not all.
 
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