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Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties

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Goodman Games has issued another statement regarding the situation surrounding its upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunder.

Goodman Games CEO Joseph Goodman opened by saying "I was personally very affected by the comments because many of the people I know and love are in the groups that were heavily affected so I don't agree with the bigotry, I don't agree with the transphobia, I don't agree with the homophobia, I don't agree with the racism, I don't agree with any of it and I don't want to be associated with it and I don't want any money from Goodman Games to ever fund it or be perceived as funding it."

The short version of the statement --
  • The funds which would have gone to Judges Guild (which appears to be 10% of the Kickstarter) will be placed in an escrow account managed by Goodman Games. Those funds will be used to reimburse the backers of the earlier unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter.
  • The print run will be limited to ensure that once those backers have been reimbursed, no further revenue will be generated. This ensures that Judges Guild will not make a profit on this project.
  • If in some way the Kickstarter does exceed this threshold, Goodman Games is legally obligated to pay the excess royalties to Judges Guild. However, Goodman Games will match that excess with a charity donation.


Hi everyone,

Over the last day, I’ve been listening and reading the comments made in relation to our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project. Many of you have legitimate questions which we could have done a better job addressing initially. I realize that, in the initial rollout, I should have better explained how Goodman Games plans to publish this product in a way aligned with our company’s core values.

A common sentiment in many comments is: “How do you know the royalties will be used as intended?” As we shared yesterday, our agreement with Judges Guild is that royalties from “our” 5E+DCC City State of the Invincible Overlord will be used to repay unfulfilled backers from “their” Pathfinder CSIO Kickstarter from many years ago. There is legitimate concern from many commentators asking how we will ensure that would happen and ensuring that no funds are used for any other purpose. I and the entire Goodman Games team personally agree, as we do not want any funds from a Goodman Games project (this or any other) used for any causes or purposes related to the things that we are diametrically opposed to. (Including antisemitism, racism, homophobia, or other bigoted causes.) Concerns about funds being used for other purposes by other parties have been taken very seriously.

Therefore, Goodman Games will set up an escrow account specifically to receive any royalties due to Judges Guild. Effective immediately we will take over administering the refund process for the 2014 Judges Guild “Pathfinder edition” CSIO campaign. All royalties generated from “our” 5E+DCC CSIO campaign will be paid directly into this account. No royalties will be paid directly to Judges Guild.

We will limit the number of copies printed of “our” CSIO project to ensure royalties do not exceed the “full refund threshold” of the original Pathfinder CSIO campaign. In other words, if every single backer of the original campaign requests a refund, and we sell our entire print run, the full value of refunds will be granted and not a cent will be left over for additional royalty payments.

All reimbursements to backers of the previous Pathfinder campaign will come from this escrow account, managed by Goodman Games and overseen by a third party to ensure the funds are used as intended with no other parties being a part of this process.

For the record: Goodman Games has no access to the original Judges Guild Pathfinder Kickstarter campaign. We were not part of it. Operationally, legally, morally and financially we have no connection to it (other than this new development). We are unable to access backer records. Currently we would ask that backers of that original project email info@goodman-games.com and include a screen capture of their original pledge info, with backer number as well as full name and mailing address. (This email address may change as we set up the mechanisms to deal with this process.) We will begin to process refunds following the close and settlement of the crowdfunding campaign. To the extent that the funds accrued in the Judges Guild royalty escrow account cover some or all refund requests, we will administer an evenly prorated amount or a full refund.

The goal of this post is to answer any remaining questions, so here is an answer to one more that I anticipate. “What happens to any money left in the escrow account after the refunds are paid out?” The “Pathfinder edition” CSIO project generated $85k in revenue. For “our” project to generate $85k in royalty payments, it would have to break $850,000, which would be an extraordinary campaign. I think it’s highly unlikely that will happen.

However, it has been represented to me that Judges Guild has already refunded some of the original Pathfinder backers, so perhaps the total refund requests will be less than $85k. And perhaps “our” campaign will do better than expected, generating a larger-than-expected royalty payment. The combination of these two factors means it’s possible there will be money left in the escrow account.

We are legally obligated to pay those funds to Judges Guild. If that happens, Goodman Games will match that remaining payment with a donation to a charitable cause that supports our values of inclusivity. We have requested that Judges Guild make a similar donation.

We will also be limiting the print run of the campaign to manage the amount of royalties generated by this campaign so that there should be no excess. This campaign will be a “one-and-done” print run. PDF copies of the materials will only be sold during this crowdfunding campaign. There will be no additional printing. If the crowdfunding backers do not pledge for the entire print run, the remaining printed copies will be sold into distribution to generate funds for the remaining reimbursements of the “Pathfinder edition.”

I hope this addresses the concern around “where the money goes.” If there are other questions I can address, please send them our way and I’ll try to address those too. As we said yesterday when the events of 2020 occurred, we had several projects in the works related to the Judges Guild property. This is the last former Judges Guild product Goodman Games will be publishing that we do not own the rights to. We have rights to other products, which we do not intend to develop.

The original City State of the Invincible Overlord, as first designed by Bob Bledsaw Sr and Bill Owen in 1977, is an amazing piece of TTRPG history that deserves to be seen by 2025 gamers. Our hope that we can find way to share this brilliant creation with 5E and DCC gamers, help resolve outstanding refunds for the prior Kickstarter backers and do so without any connection to racist, homophobic, antisemitic and other bigotry exposed in 2020.

Thanks for your patience as we got everything pulled together behind the scenes and having the faith in Goodman Games as a company and myself to do the right thing.

Sincerely,
Joseph Goodman
 

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The only thing I don't recall him mentioning was why he, and his team, was publishing this at all.

Yes. None of what Mr. Goodman wrote answers this key question. Stubbornness and/or sunk cost, it seems to me.

I’ve bought OAR1-9, and many other GG 3e, 5e, DCCRPG, and even 4e products. I can’t see that I’ll touch this; it seems unworthy of the effort GG has apparently put into it.
 

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Yes. None of what Mr. Goodman wrote answers this key question. Stubbornness and/or sunk cost, it seems to me.

I’ve bought OAR1-9, and many other GG 3e, 5e, DCCRPG, and even 4e products. I can’t see that I’ll touch this; it seems unworthy of the effort GG has apparently put into it.
The thing that pushed me over the line was his sincerity, having watched the video. Not everyone has time or inclination for that, certainly. Simple stubbornness doesn't ring true.

And, I would certainly prefer this over GG having to cut a check to JG to break any potential contractual obligations.
 

I dunno! Are they actually doing that? Are folks getting their refunds? I was under the impression they were not. But I don’t actually know.
I am an original backer. In 2020 Bledsoe said he was working on the project solo so it would be slow but you could ask for a refund if you didn’t want to wait. He had already given out two old CSIO PDFs, maps and minis that he used the Tegel Manor royalties to get done, and some small new PDFs.

I only backed for a PDF and would have preferred a late product to a refund so I did not ask for one then.

Then radio silence for five years.

This week I got a message from Bledsoe on the 2014 kickstarter that the project was dead but to email a screenshot of my backer number to be added to the list for refunds. I have done so now and I am waiting for any further action or communication.

We will see. :)
 

What I don't get:
If JG had to pay reimbursements, and now GG is paying the reimbursements (at least in parts), how does JG not profit from that? It's less money they have to pay.
Maybe I am a little slow right now, can somebody explain it in easy terms?
Hopefully, the net winners will be the backers. I had no intent to pick this up, but that whole thing has made sure I won't. Made me unsure about picking up DCC in the future, too. Shame.
Note: I'm approaching this from a historian's PoV, not a lawyers's, since IANAL.

It's not a certain thing that the weasel words of KS's conditions will indemnify Judges Guild/BBJr against fraud or theft claims; the Statute of Limitations is like swiss cheese: plenty of holes. (exceptions for interstate frauds, ongoing frauds, ongoing criminal enterprise, relocation to avoid prosecution, new evidence of guilt surfacing, and others.) If the statute of limitations does apply, Bledsaw's gotten away with it... but agreeing to his portion being used to reimburse his backers implies he agrees he did wrong by them... possibly counting as new evidence should should someone decide to sue him. (Admissions of participation have been used to reopen cases well past the statute of limitations both civil and criminal.)

It's quite possible that a suitably crafty lawyer could seek to have the copyright transferred to the backers should JG/BBJr declare bankruptcy... in lieu of payment to a class...

Kickstarter campaigns have been little litigated... largely because many think it's not worth it, or that it will just trigger bankruptcy. Not knowing that bankruptcy can result in compelled liquidation of assets, including IP rights...
 
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Better? Yes. I still don't feel like it's GG responsibility or business to bail out JG's failed KS from 15 years ago. Is that the price of doing CSIO? Feels weird and wrong. And even with that in place, the current crowd fund is still indirectly supporting current JG owners. I want to see updated old school JG materials and I've loved the OAR series... But this situation still feels messed up and I can't support it. Bledsaw Jr's view points are so offensive to so many and not the kind you can compromise on, I can't have my money support him in even the slightest way.
 




Certainly the initial announcement could have been handled better but I'm satisfied after the clarification. Those who care about D&D history and/or never got the chance to own/play it (like me) now have a chance, the original backers who got screwed will finally be refunded and get the new at a discount, and the JG guy won't profit from it.
 

I’m not very impressed. Of course, realistically I wasn’t going to buy a new edition of City State of the Invincible Overlord anyway - for my gaming interests, it’s basically junk, and was at the time. I don’t have fond memories of the short lived campaign we played set there. I also think that this remains an own-goal for Goodman Games, and that the price of them supporting Judges Guild in any way should have been sustained, significant behavior change on the part of the Bledsaws. Until and unless that happens, Goodman Games should leave them alone; gaming history in the OAR format isn’t important enough to warrant reinforcing the present-day real-world efforts to suppress and harm actually existing people.
I have great nostalgia for CSotIV, but I don't think we ever actually used it in play. My friend Steve had it and lent it to me, so I read it over and over. I was just a kid; this was shortly after I discovered D&D, so 1979-80 or so.

This is around 45 years later so take these recollections with a grain of salt, but I remember being so intrigued by the way it was constructed not as a module but, essentially, as an enormous sandbox. I just remember loving the concept of a whole city rendered in such detail that players could find adventure almost anywhere.

That really resonated with me, and to this day is how I construct settings - right now I'm almost 20 pages of notes into a pirate town just for the next session or two, and a lot of that stuff will probably never appear at the table, or not any time soon. But if a player decides that their character really wants to get a tattoo, I've got that covered, with a quirky tattoo artist who even does a few magical tattoos, a potential mini-adventure and a few little hooks back to the main story the party is building.

So City State was pretty formative for me, in terms of how I still think about creating settings that let the players find their own way and build their own story. I know who is in the setting and what they are all about, so that whatever choices the players make, I'm ready.

I don't think I'd buy this, though, even putting aside the appalling statements made by DBII. I generally try not to go back to writing I loved as a kid, because I want to keep it safe in my nostalgia and not look at it through a more critical lens, after decades of teaching writing and literature. City State was pretty important to me and those ideas made a difference, and I'm happy to leave it at that.
 

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