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You guys are really beginning to scare me! :uhoh:

It could be a tabloid headline, but its a subplot in a Forgotten Realms campaign. The rogue in question is chaotic good, redeemed from his shady past and now adventuring in a goodly party. One day they meet an evil dryad, who the DM assumes is going to be killed in battle against the...

Thanks for the advice, hopefully we can rebuild our game to work with these expanded capabilities! :)

Well thanks for the high-level turnout guys! :) XPH... where can I find that? :lol: So now I know the technical term!

How do you generally design higher level adventures to provide interesting challenges? The party in my campaign is around 12th level, which is uncharted territory for us in 3.5 (or 3.0 for that matter). The DM is expressing concern with how he's going to run adventures for a party that has...

Unofficial statistics show that 27% of all Shadowdancer fatalities are directly caused by head-mounted naked flames. :lol:

You are right, there isnt, at least nothing directly saying that. But there is this bit, which could potentially put a spanner in the works: "She cannot, however, hide in her own shadow." ...Odd wording. If she didnt have to hide in a shadow in the first place, why even mention it?

I mostly agree with Abraxus; the SD doesnt need anything to hide behind (ie. any real cover or concealment). If you visualize the Shadowdancer actually melding with the shadows you could be justified in ruling that the shadows have to be at least his size. Some people would even say that the SD...

Ooooh no its not! ;) There is a little extra bit on the end that people tend to ignore for convenience.

What mikebr99 said.

What Pax said.

I wasn't restating my position, this 'in your own shadow' thing only occured to me when the HiPS description was posted earlier in this thread. :) It doesn't say that you can't use your own shadow as a trigger for the ability, it says that you can't hide in your own shadow, very...

I would say its the realisation that the players are just as important to the developing story as the DM, aswell as the ability to forego metagame thinking.

But thats exactly my point! It DOES say that you have to be IN a shadow to HiPS. The addition of 'You cannot hide in your own shadow' to the ability description suggests that you have to hide in some other shadow. Well ok, maybe not Blindsight then.

That Wizard becomes just another monkey standing in a field in plain view when an opponent with See Invisible or Blind Sight comes along. Your Shadowdancer remains hidden from view.

So does that then mean that a creature with reach would get 4 AoO's on somebody who runs through 4 of their threatened squares if they had combat reflexes and enough Dex?

Thats not necessarily true. Even if he is positioned in a shadow already then a SD still has to actively attempt to hide in order to get a roll. That should involve some movement on his part. Even David Copperfield needs to twirl his black cape infront of him in order to disappear before our...

Icebear: I couldnt have put it better myself. So do you agree that a Shadowdancer has to actually enter the shadow that is within 10' of him in order to HiPS?

Doh! Thanks for that. Must remember to take combat reflexes more often!

Yep, it's hotting up!.... Hide in Plain Sight (Su): A shadowdancer can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as she is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, a shadowdancer can hide herself from view in the open without anything to actually hide behind. She cannot, however, hide...