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as to healing.. you and Jericho are 1 point short. So take your pick....

well... you don't get xp for killing things, but for overcoming challenges...and i rolled some char/diplomacy checks...

So let me get this straight... 3e encourages 'munchinisim' because the mechanics are actually solid enough to create a balanced campaign. It seems the key to rp is to have poor rules, ala prior editions...hah

A rest The party retrances their steps to the mine entrance, where they spend an uneventful night recuperating from the numerous hazards they encountered during the day.. The day breaks with great light piercing through the fog, and yet the cave is as swathed in shadows as ever.... Bhartus...

The mine The mine is a good hour walk to town...

ooc this.. OOC: take it to the ooc room :)

And on the FRCS The FRCS, like the MotP, probably attained an inordinate amount of the fluff market, but that doesn't change the fact that, with a few exceptions, rules triumph over fluff in the market. Note how subsequent FR supps apparently did comparitivly poorly to rules heavy core books...

not exactly I'm saying that wotc rules supps are the most consistent in terms of balance, not because it was produced by wotc. When i say a good supp does not neccesarily appeal to the person reading, i mean in terms of immediate gratification. It improves the quality of the game, but that...

God Healin' Ardoss regains 6

The Loot The gear left behind mostly consists of leather armor and half spears, along with some trinkits left behind by M'dok of unknown value. Each kobold left 11gp each, for a total of 88. You discover a room behind the ledge where the war party was encamped. Four sacks of ore are also...

What are the noteworthy applications available for the Palm Pilot? Dice rollers, character sheets/generators, attack resolution, spellbook tracking etc? Oh, and links would be appreciated...

Interesting Not all 'fluff' is equal? That is probably true, though i still think most fluff, even of the toolkit nature would probably be of more dubious value than solid rules. And given limitations on the size of any given book, Wotc was probably reasonable in not bundling the fluff with the...

The Retreat... The kobolds descend to the cabin floor, hugging the wall of the crevice so as to avoid infecting the party. They retreat through the tunnel the party originally entered in, leaving their equipment behind....

Well I will take exception to two of you assumptions, Tiefling. One that the game changes to such a degree that most dms won't be able to account for it, given the preferences of their individual groups. Two, that the majority of groups would not be perfectly happy with scenarios which continue...

Ok... You are correct, i will not begrudge your preferences in a product; i simply take exception to anyone implying that wotc made a mistake with their approach. From their perspective, given the evidence that thick 'toolkit' books sell more than 'fluff' supps, they were perfectly reasonable...

I apologize.. To FDP Mike and others. Wotc does make its share of editing mistakes and given the topic of this thread, i will freely concede that many topflight d20 publishers have caught up with Wotc in terms of applying the core rules to adventures. I was referring more to rules additions...

Not quite.. Wow..you 'sent me packing' with the ELH debate? From what i can recall, your argument was blatantly sentimental, not relying on any critique of the rules, which were far and away the most valued valued aspect of most GAMING supplements, and instead relying on some foggy aesthetic...

Oh wow.. Psion, what an example..an appendix stat block..wow...i'm referring to actual RULES here. No d20 work i've seen really comes close in terms of creating consistent, workable, BALANCED rules. Your bias against high-level gaming, which has been the major area of support from Wotc this...

eh... i would ask which d20 publishers are 'catching up' to Wotc. Perhaps in production quality, but in rules consistency? I have yet to see it...

Ultimatum... M'dok continues his barking, "We come down now. If you not want plague, better leave now, continue into mountain. Other kin in other end of mine, you be infected if you return now." The kobolds begin to climb down the from the ledge. Bhartus is still unable to get a read on the...