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  1. Cedric

    A Dozen Crossbows Aimed at You ..

    Reminds me of any old joke, story...heck, not sure where I heard it. I'm the High Level Character and the guards are staring at me over the tops of their crossbows, I have to stop and look around then say, "Now...ask yourself boys, am I trapped in here with you? Or are you trapped in here with me?"
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    Help me! RPG Now needs a Credit Card for payment - and I don't own one!

    Most larger stores like Wal-Mart and the like now offer Visa Giftcards. It's basically a visa debit card with a set value. You put money into it just like a gift card, but it has the visa number and visa logo, so you can use it anywhere you can use a visa credit card (with rare exceptions, like...
  3. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. I think I'm done here.
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    Most amusing line in a game book?

    My particularly favorite lines from HOL were related to hand to hand combat. There were two versions... 1. That Whacky Bruce Lee Stuff 2. How to Make People Stop Living With Your Fist hehe, love that book.
  5. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Easy...Break Enchantment isn't Heal and doesn't duplicate Heal.
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    And it's the first list, the one you agree is quite specific that we are talking about. Because that's the list used in the spell text. This second "implicit" list you discuss is not referred to in the spell text. If it were, we'd be talking about it, but it isn't, so we aren't. So how...
  7. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    It's not ruling things out, it's ruling things in. Regardless, either is value depending on whichever list is shorter. Someone gave a baseball analogy earlier that fits this argument. You may only, legally, come to the plate to bat if you are using a regulation baseball bat. The includes...
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Theoretically there are an infinite number of spells that could add that specifically clear the effects of feeblemind, either by saying so precisely or by stating that they work exactly like heal, limited wish, wish or miracle. I'm not sure I understand what your point is though. There is no...
  9. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Mass Heal precisely duplicates Heal (as well as adding additional functionality), so it's even more specific, and the most specific rule wins. As for Panacea, you have to allow for additions to the rules, otherwise the rules fail to function at all, no one would ever buy a supplement. Panacea...
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Ok, so let me make sure I understand your contention... "This spell works on any spells that satisfy the following criteria (type of spell, duration of spell, etc." Is, according to you, more specific than: "Remains in effect until one of the following four spells listed by name is used."...
  11. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    I agree in essence that this conflict exists. What I don't understand is why anyone would choose to err on the side of the broad, generic rule, instead of erring on the side of the one that explicitly states intended usage and cures.
  12. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    I'm sorry if I crossed over a line, I wasn't trying to refer to house rules as a pejorative (that would be hypocritical of me, since I use so many house rules). I was trying to support the decision to house rule this particular issue, if one so chooses. Again though, if I crossed over a line...
  13. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Hah, the only thing that is settled is that we all disagree. For what it's worth though, and I said this 8 pages ago, if you wanted to house rule that Break Enchantment would cure feeblemind in your game, then I would both: Support your decision completely, and... Agree with your logic for...
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    For the most part I agree with the rest of what you had to say, so I won't bother quoting it and going point by point. I can see the reasoning behind a precedent for defensive/curative over offensive if the spells are of equal level (in fact, many other games use versions of this). However...
  15. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Precisely, that's why Break Enchantment doesn't work to cure Feeblemind. It requires a spell that can specifically reverse brain damage. Something all four of the listed cures can do.
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    See, I disagree, but I think this may just come down to how we view the spell. I view it as something that instantaneously damages the brain in a manner which almost completely disables the subjects. The neural pathways that allow cognitive thought, speech, memory, spellcasting...those are all...
  17. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    The consequences of an instantaneous effect are typically permanent.
  18. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Since (in my example) I added nothing to my pinky finger hacking spell to prevent Break Enchantment from working or described what could fix it...then I agree. However, now let's say that when I write my spell, Cedric's Pinky Finger Hacker, I add the blurb, that the finger remains gone until a...
  19. Cedric

    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    If I get hit by a fireball, fail my save and take 34 hit points of damage. That is a permanent effect. You can't "dispel" my hp loss. Now, thankfully there are mundane and magical rules for HEALING the damage. But otherwise, the effect is as permanent as if I had lost 34 hit points to an axe blow.
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    Get pedantic on Feeblemind

    Several people have brought up Break Enchantment, instantaneous effects it would work on and Reincarnate. So, here's a possible theorem. I'm a human ranger with a favored enemy of orcs. I die and am reincarnated, I come back as an orc. Upset by this, I seek a cleric who can cast True...
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