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Then what is the point of backgrounds if your class explains your origin?

I think then you have the two basic answers, assuming you are designing a class that can match the other 14 in terms of output. A factotum-like class that is a true jack-of-all-types and the ability to "excel" at one for a limited time. A class that can burn resources to act like a...

You are assuming that every class must in fiction have super-special training. That's not a requirement, that's an explanation. There is a reason why background is separate from class and why every fighter isn't required to have the Solider background. Adam could be a ex-Royal Guard (solider) or...

That explains nothing. I'm sure there might be a market for a fundamentally useless character who gets one shining moment of glory per session and is babied the rest of the game, but I don't know how big said market is nor am I sure that it warrants a whole class. I mean, sidekick characters...

Yes, mechanically he took a feat and explained it as being son of a famous Jedi. I don't consider Luke to be an everyman. C-3PO is the everyman. He's not all that heroic or brave, certainly not an action hero. He has useful skills (languages and protocol) but spends most of the Saga bumbling...

So explain to me what a 20th level Everyman looks like and what they are doing? What's their game play loop?

Bummer. Well, August is only a few months away...

The curse of all punk is to eventually get absorbed by the mainstream.

Luke uses the Force because his father is one of the most powerful Jedi ever. There are no farmer luck points. Luke being a farmer has nothing to do with it. But what this has told me is that every example of an Everyman has basically topped out as 3rd -5th level before becoming a Jedi, a...

The farmer looked at the patient and sighed. "Ah've never performed brain surgery before, but ah'll give it a shot..."

🤷‍♀️ Ok. So the Everyman class can represent a character who is the son of the Chosen One and starts out an amazing pilot and later can use telekinesis, telepathy, mind tricks, and other supernatural abilities. Not what I thought of when we were discussing everymen, considering that's...

Yes, but I can be all those things and still be a class. That's the beauty of backgrounds. I can be a farmer AND a fighter, a Merchant AND a rogue, a sailor AND a monk. Why would I want to be a lesser version?

Yes, but EVERYONE in those games are equally puny. DCC characters are all equally likely to die. We're talking about a puny character amongst the hyper-competent party of traditional D&D classes. I don't consider Luke to be an everyman. Even in A New Hope, he's a remarkable bush-pilot, a crack...

If you are simply upgrading a bog-standard D&D game to 19th century technology, you probably won't need to change much at all. Most of the changes will be on the equipment list to account for things that are more advanced than the PHB, like pocket watches or pistols. That is assuming though you...

Exactly. There may be a market for playing Joe Nobody amongst mighty warriors and powerful wizards, but I don't think it's particularly big.

Well that's because people are demanding more MARTIAL POWER from the fighter class to keep pace with casters, so the idea that a Joe Nobody can hang with God is less and less viable. Not without copious amounts of plot armor. The Avengers can defeat Thanos because of skill, training and power...

Considering you are essentially trading your entire subclass's features to cast it, its kinda warranted to be powerful.

TSR had little sense of balance in AD&D. You can count of three things in life: Death, Taxes, and D&D being unbalanced.

So honestly, if I were statting up LotR in D&D terms (a fool's errand but hear me out) I'd probably make all the hobbits fighters or fighter/rogues. If you REALLY want to argue it, Frodo could be an NPC statblock. I don't really think there is much necessity for an everyman class in D&D, but I'm...

Oh, I want those spells reprinted along with the shadow sorcerer. No "see Xanathat/Tasha".