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Wolf, I don't think you're listening. Even a few people who are adamantly against adamantine bypassing DR have said that the "natural enhancement bonus" is actually an "enhancement bonus". Try reading the adamantine battleaxe. It's been proven left and right that a "natural enhancement bonus"...

Actually, no, I read it, but we've already been over the "natural" thing in this thread, so I felt it didn't need mentioning, because I assumed that people had read that part of the thread (guess I shouldn't assume things like that...) Pretty much everyone here (correct me if I'm wrong about...

Kaljamaha, even when you quote a post of mine, you still seem not to read it. If you actually bothered to read it, you would see that I mentioned the reason that it might be reasonable, and that is because the rules for magical enchantments are in the "magic items" section, and from this it...

The reason that they didn't put it in the special materials section in the DR section is because it's not a special material as DR is concerned, it's a +1 or +2 enhancement weapon as far as DR is concerned. And before asking questions, Kaljamaha, look at the rest of the thread. It's been...

It is a little troublesome to have such high DCs, as characters who have not properly maxed out their saves will pretty much have no chance of saving, or a character will have a very bad chance of saving on their bad save or something. However, I find that it really isn't all that hard to max...

It seems that a lot of people have a problem with this rule. In my group, where there is a forsaker in one of our campaigns, we simply removed the magic destruction ability and made it so that the forsaker had to somehow "sacrifice" a particular amount of personal wealth every week (a day is...

Um, I stand on sand all the time, it's called the beach :-P DR is bypassed by enhancement bonuses, regardless of whether they are magical or not. Your "example" is mentioned in passing, whereas my table is meant to be referred to in all cases dealing with the bypassing of DR (if you'll notice...

So you're basing your argument off of a half-relevant example that's only mentioned in passing? If you check the table which the MM DR entry refers to, you'll notice that it says "enhancement bonus" above "special material". Since adamantine has an "enhancement bonus", then it's able to bypass...

Enhancement bonuses and natural enhancement bonuses are the same. We've been over this before. The word "natural" is simply there to show that the enhancement bonus, which is all that matters to the rules, is not from a magical source, btu a natural one. If you look on the table in the DMG...

Is "silver" in the special materials section of the creating magic items section of the DMG? No, it's not. Does that mean it's not a special material? Of course not. The "special materials" in the creating magic items section and the "special materials" in the DR section are two completely...

No, because I don't own an MM :-P However, the SRD, under the special abilities section, which has been released under the OGL, doesn't say anything about nonmagical weapons.

Seeing as the price is exactly 1000gp greater, for all types of adamantine, regardless of bonus, than similar magical weapons, then we can assume that the 1000 gp is meant to account for the indispelability/inflexibility/extra hardness of the adamantine. If adamantine does not overcome DR, then...

Yes, it is true that that weapon's magical enhancement bonus is all that counts. I would find it hard to believe that it's natural enhancement bonus would count in overcoming damage reduction, considering it doesn't have one. That question also has nothing at all to do with adamantine, so it...

Thus the wink, and the word "probably' :-P And regardless, the part about the publishing still stands, and I think that most people on this board will agree that the sage contradicts himself often, and so at best is just another fairly well-informed opinion, though not completely well informed...

What's an enchantment bonus? I, too, would pay extra for some more hardness...but not 3000 gold. Perhaps about 1000 gold would be enough to pay for that +1 damage and some extra hardness...and what do you know, it just so happens that adamantine weapons cost about 1000 gold more than...

And in any place that this happens, it is specifically stated whether it stacks or not, as you say. So here's where my point comes in: the bonuses from adamantine "do not stack with any other enhancement bonuses." Does this not mean that they are enhancement bonuses, too? If there are...

If it's a separate bonus, it should stack with the regular enhancement bonus from magic (such as armor and natural armor). However, in this case, both because it doesn't stack and because of the description of the adamantine battleaxe in the special magic weapons section of the DMG, "natural"...

How is it irrelevant? Because it has nothing to do with adamantine weapons (which have enhancement bonuses) overcoming DR (which is overcome by enhancement bonuses). The reason I used the example of the werewolf in the first place on the other thread was to show an example of a creature who...

I find it interesting that nobody has yet made a comment about the fact that DR is bypassed by enhancement bonus, and adamantine has an enhancement bonus, and instead they've decided to argue with irrelevant side points rather than actually disputing the blatantly obvious fact that adamantine...

I don't see "wood" or "silver" listed under special materials, so does that mean they're not special materials? I didn't think so. The reason it is not "15/special material" is that not all special materials are equal, and werewolf DR is bypassed specifically by silver and not wood, and also...