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-tags Tikiman and goes back over the rope for the last time- I'm out. This will go nowhere. There were occasional flashes of vague hope... but no. To the OP: Feel free to nerf until its comfortable for you. Once youve nerfed psionics enough that an optimized Wizard/Psion hybrid is on par...

Hmm... would be interesting. I suppose the people who like that style of defensive magics would still get the power, and the people who dont (myself, among others) would still not take the power...

That is very true.. the Psion is much, much better at buffing himself, than he is at buffing others. Most people, however, dont consider this a strength...

Im not sure.. lack of interest? Part of the problem is that we can see the end from here... no matter what characters are built or put forward, and no matter what paradigm is used to test it, the outcome is too easily decried by those whose assumptions it upsets. By me, by someone else, by...

I cant speak to wilders.. never cared for em. But spending a feat for Energy Missile? Id rather spend feats for metamagic, or item creation. Both get you farther. Now, if I can spend a feat to get into the mage spell list... Evards, Tensers, Mordenkainers? Featworthy

Then you, sir, are the designated powerhouse, the go-getter, the kill-card, the person what makes stuff dead for your team. Just dont forget the words of that great philospher, Uncle Ben...

Theres no reason a 'quickened' spell, or any lacking V/S/M, would be any less visible than a supressed-manifestation psionic power. You can cast spells at a lower level, just not lower than the caster level, IIRC. I know you can create Items at those lower levels, should work for spells, too...

-nods- And if your used to playing in (what I would consider) highly GM focused/controlled games (also likely very heavily combat focused), then your perception of the Sorceror as approaching the Wizards power makes more sense, as compared to the more frequent perception of the Wizard as being...

Well, you COULD.. or you could blow two feats getting a familiar and scribe scroll.. err.. I mean a Psicrystal and Inscribe Power Stone. Both incredibly useful, both things that a Wizard gets as class features, and enough to put you back at 1 or 0 feats for 1st lvl...

Hmm... I suppose I gave you that one for free. I meant in the sense of 'solving specific sorts of problems' not in the sense of 'different class abilities' Im curious as to your thoughts on the second part of my post... that bit struck me like an epiphany, and I'm really wondering about peoples...

Way too much material for me to respond to all at once, Thanee... but definitely food for thought. I still think the individually-superior spells (Evards, Color Spray, Ottos, Mordenkainens) coupled with the XP-Cost differences (several psionic powers have XP costs absent from their magic...

Well, your character is, IMHO, more mechanically proficient in design than your teammates. There may be a self-supporting synergy here (though that is counter-intuitive, given people USUAL appraisal of the mystic theurge... perhaps the combination of having only one Prime Requisite stat, as...

Not to criticize the GM, or the game.. sounds like a cool character concept, and perhaps an unintentional, rather than intentional, nova build (time manipulation is usually pretty mean in games, IMHO), and a neat (if unexpected!) outcome of a meeting gone terribly awry... But boy, if that...

Agreed. Its just not a big enough deal that I see it causing problems. It would make Close Combat a bit less 'sticky', but.. -shrugs- Big deal. Its not like you could standard-action withdraw and then shoot on a move action, etc.

Oh. "She went Nova". Check. Usually a very bad call, but when 2xCR13 characters run into a CR20 encounter, you dont have much choice... Im seeing 4 of 7 powers built out for nova-ing... except Im not sure what role Time Hop played (getting her friends safely in the future and out of the...

I'm trying to imagine a CR20 Red Dragon not simply eating (claw-claw-bite-improved grab-breath weapon) a Lvl 14 Wilder. That must have been SOME cunning plan the party had...

I hate to see the OP retire from the thread... I'm willing to be convinced. I also love the class. Im just not seeing anything that seems to me out of whack, given the other costs involved for the psion. (As I love to say... Teleport, Fireball, Polymorph. Pick one. Use a feat for the each...

The text always seemed pretty clear to me.. and the idea of hand-tossed cluster-rockets is pretty cool. One thing to be clear on.. every sane person that uses the power in the game does not-not-not allow it to target attended objects. There has never been a clear ruling on that from WoTC (its...

So, a mathmatical analysis of all potential power/feat/class/PRC combinations, in all circumstances, in all game styles, evaluated for impact per day, impact per round, surviviablity, flexibility, mobility, utility, synergy with other party members, buffing, debuffing, crowd control...

I dont even know how to answer this. Are you being disingenous? I can only hope so. What exactly does 'more powerful' mean? More damage per round? Per day? Better save-or-dies? What?