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Imret, I'll take those in order, and add a caveat: if the orcs are not evil, these definitions change. These are all IMO. 1.) Instant kills? Good planning. Dead evil orcs, no threat to village. Good act. 2.)Leaving them for dead? Stupid, but not evil. One of them might stabilize, survive, and...

You are using Gestalts and a 32 point buy and you are complaining because your characters are buffing up and killing things too quickly? Um. You also seem to want everyone to be Lawful. 'Everyone believes in fairness regardless of alignment'? What's alignment for, then?

I cannot refute your assertion that no good metaphysical power would accept human sacrifice without referencing real world religion in such a way as to get me stoned. Besides...you did say in your campaign, so it works however you want it to, there.:)

I believe I said that it was acceptable when fighting irredeemable evil *which varies by campaign*. I did not say genocide was acceptable when dealing with creatures that are 'often evil'. Leif, the Aliens analogy is *not* incorrect. There are a huge number of intelligent species in D&D that...

Good point, Henry. And one still being debated in the alignment threads. Some of us think genocide *is* acceptable..under an absolute alignment system, when dealing with irreddemable creatures that are evil by nature (which ones those are varies by campaign.) See my above post on the Aliens...

(tongue in cheek) I object to the characterization of females as the fairer sex...they don't have modifiers to Cha (and thus are not more attractive) or Wisdom, (and thus are not more objective and unbiased). (Again, joke.) :)

Sorry. Meant to say that the rules as written *imply* that the likelihood of females being combatants is as high as males because there is no mechanical reason whatsoever why they should not be. Cultural reasons will of course always be within the purview of the DM. In the real world, while the...

In my current campaign, I've removed the Charisma penalties from Dwarves (they lose Dex, like FR Gold Dwarves) and from Half-Orcs (They get shafted by the rules enough as it is) and I simulate their social problems with a -2 Diplomacy/+2 Intimidate. Neither race gets along well with others, but...

Hiya, Fusangite. Jumping in with both feet: In the RAW, 'women and children' is meaningless. Women, as the rules are written, are just as likely to be cobatants as men. Children, yes, i can see that. Killing the young might be evil...OTOH, I've already stated elsewhere the principle of...

John...you are so cool. And you have more patience than I do.

Reading it now. thanks.

caveat: In my current campaign, Detect Evil only works on supernatural evil like demons, chromatic dragons, priests of one specific Evil god who isn't part of the main pantheon...and a whole slew of monsters created specifically by the Evil god to be his minions. None of those races created by...

Ok. Let me repeat something that i have said on many threads of late, but will rephrase: In my opinion, Killing does not equal murder. Killing is not always wrong. Perhaps the alignment section defines killing as evil, perhaps its just unclear. But it becomes very obvious that the game, as...

Yup. I try to make sure my PC's have a chance to use everything on their character sheet, at some point, especially background.:)

It has its moments. I play a lot of gray games. It's just that they aren't D&D, even if they are D20.:)

I'd like to jump on your Bandwagon, John. I'm not a moral relativist either. I don't believe things are right or wrong based on your cultural appraisal of the act. I'm a moral situationalist. I believe that circumstances and details, reasons and intent, cause and effect, all contribute to the...

John Morrow explains this really well in the thread on human sacrifice and cannibalism. i'm having an interesting time watching all the threads on evil come to simlar conclusions.

This precise point is being made on multiple threads as we speak. If killing is evil, then we can't actually play good guys in the game as set up.:) D&D may be *like* a superhero game...but it isn't the old Marvel system where killing somebody makes you lose all your Karma.

"So I think this argument does more to illustrate the problem with the claim that all killing is Evil (just as other examples have illustrated the problem with the claim that all oppression is Evil) rather than illustrating a particular problem with the SRD definitions of Good and Evil except...

And unusual.:) Still, we have differences. I like the idea that when you see Evil you kill it. No questions. That the Gods, at least, know what Evil is. That a paladin will not be penalized for using the tools he is given by the gods to do his job: Destroy Evil, root and branch. If, in the...