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I'm assuming by "failed once" you are referring to 2E? I'm not sure that era was a failure by any stretch. And I'm by no means a 2E fan. At any rate, if 4E "fails" there is no competition for it save a previous edition of D&D. While I'll grant EN World polls are statistically meaningless...

I just would like to say that David the Mage and I, for once, agree. Bring on the Apocalypse! The WP P.S. My group's age range is from 33 - 43 yrs old, not including me (too old) and our whippersnapper (age 26). Some of us have played together since '83. We switched to 4e, and we're having...

Dear Bryon - 4E, exciting and new Come aboard, we're expecting you Love, life's sweetest reward Let it flow, it floats back to you... Love, WP

You had to admit - it was worth a shot. I was in an expansive and generous mood in light of the New Year, and I had hoped to gain some insight into what makes BryonD tick. If you ever decide you have the time or inclination to explain your views, consider my shoulder always open for you to...

Define "ADVANCED" - I just don't get it. Do you base that adjective on the number of options, the complexity of the rule system, the calculations required during gameplay? I'm not being an ass here, believe it or not - I'm truly interested in what that word means to you and, moreover, why that...

Whoa. That's quite an exhaustive list. Thanks for the link. You may be interested (or may not) to know that many of your suggestions seem to have been incorporated in 4e with regards to the spell list. For example, they seriously ramped up the spell level of the "travel" spells, and ramped...

Assuming you didn't graduate high school last year...that. is. awesome. I'm envious! WP

Um...no. No one else mentioned that response in the previous 15 pages. But I'm sure B&N owes you a cut for saving them money. @DaveMage: I have a library of 3e (and 1e) material that is no longer useful around the table, though it is still fun to peruse. I suspect those editions (esp. 1e) are...

Scry, Teleport, Divinations (Find the Path, Contact Other Plane, etc.), even Fly. Those spells that grant skill bonuses and trump non-spellcasting class roles (see Familiar and how it's a better scout than 20th level Rogue). Note some of the aforementioned spells are not unbalancing, per se...

Well, first of all - the problem with high level play stems from high level spells, correct? That's my thought, anyway. So you could do a 1-10 spread that S'mon suggests (which is a very good idea), or you could perhaps limit just the spell levels (or even hand-picked high level spells that are...

Heh heh heh. I'm a bit older than that kid, but my reaction was largely similar. Praise Kord that WotC "lowered the bar" enough to create a game I thoroughly enjoy. Happy New Year - The 4E Avenger :)

This sums it up much better than my response. :) WP

Because if there's a rule out there, then I feel compelled to use it. I'm not sure why - I just do. I also became aware as I looked across the table that there were a number of guys who knew the rules better than I did - and I spent an inordinate amount of time flipping through those dang...

Like the late great John Candy, I'm an easy target. Look...I did have nuts once. Before I got married and before we started playing 3e. I'm not trying to blame 3e for my faults, but I definitely noticed a change between 1e and 3e insofar as my DMing was concerned. In 1e, I made judgment...

Not to put words in Scribble's mouth (and I don't necessarily agree with his opinion), but it's certain valid. I think what he's saying is that 4e is built to allow modular expansion, as opposed to previous versions of D&D wherein expansions were added without a similarly logical structure...

No kidding. But I'm a sucker for players and their puppy dog eyes. It stems from my desire for everyone to "maximize" their fun...which usually ends up in making things worse than if I had Just Said No. I'm starting to think I should spend my money on some self-help books instead of RPG ones...

Regarding splats: They're an unfortunate necessity in today's D&D. It started with 2e kits, worsened with 3e's softcover splats, and continues now with 4e. The only difference I see (and this is by no means a positive one) is that 4e requires splats; the core is simply incomplete. Before anyone...

In the "Golden Age" thread we have had a couple people mention that their Golden Age of D&D was when playing the game with old high school buddies. I'm using "high school" here as a general label simply alluding to the fact that some of us may have played the game in our younger years with good...

Warning: Here comes a thread hijack. Have you tried this S'mon? That is - have you tried a 1-10 spread? For a time during the transition I considered doing this. As a DM, I'm highly in favor of it. But some of my players voiced significant resistance. The problem, in our group, came down to a...

I never said you had anti-4e baggage, Mr. Al. I just mentioned that there are some people who have opinions that are well known and have been well voiced, repeatedly, on any threads that might allow said opinions to be voiced. And yes, I am in that boat as well. Lastly, you are older than me...