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The extra elements in the breath are nice from a mechanical POV, but fluff wize, it just doesn't seem right. What dragons are there that have multiple breath weapons?

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Yeah, I was hoping for "daily" powers to eventually become "encounter" powers, and possibly (by epic levels) your initial dailies would become at-wills.

I still want it back to "auto hit". But how to scale the damage so it is fair... just the old d4+1? (a lot less than the 2d4+4 most wizards would deal)

This would also require convincing players to drop all their 3x ed stuff and take up a whole new game. hard. It would also involve getting rid of classes that are not supported yet (dragon shaman, swashbuckler, arcane archer, beguiler, order of the bow initiate...), thus loosing what the...

Not sure I like that idea...considering a player may do far more damage in one attack than another may do in three or more attacks. If you compare a high roll, with skirmish or sneak attack damage, even at lower levels, when criticalled, to a simple roll with minimum damage, I think that you...

You could equate it (roughly) to 5+ or 6+ on a d6. Or 4+ on a d4, but I would stick with the d6. I am doing this with some spellcasters. Instead of choosing four spells of a given level, I am just choosing one spell to recharge on 5+, or two to recharge on 6+. Particularly higher spells...

Actually, for the minions, I just left them at the same CR as they would be normally, but gave only 1/4 the XP. That seemed easy enough. Didn't get to try out the 4E dragon on my 3E party, but did use minions, which seemed to work well. Will keep using minions!

I am also wondering what sort of "level" : "CR" change will be required. Clearly, a level 1 monster is more than a CR1 (as heroes in 4E are much stronger than 3.5E) But is a level 20 monster harder than a CR20? I will (hopefully) be running the 4E young blue dragon against my group tonight...

Well, after much lurking, I have finally bitten the bullet and joined up :) My posting *may* increase a little now ;)